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House Church (again!) 

Forum: Theological Expressions
Date: 2001, Apr 27
From: Christopher Yip CKHY

Dear RTC, Some clarifications needed: 1. Is meeting in a place other than homes against the NT model? 2. Is employing full time pastors against the NT model? 3. Is partaking the Lord's supper apart from a full meal against the NT model? 4. Is having a headquarter church (like say the Methodists) plus branches against the NT model? 5. Is the Sunday Service liturgy and order in churches against the NT model? 6. Is collecting offering to maintain the meeting place against the NT model? I'll give my answers too. My answer to all is no because the bible neither forbids nor promulgates any of these. What the bible says is that that is what the early disciples did but it doesn't say that is what Christians of all ages must do. It's really a matter of prudence and expediency. As you pointed out, the public churches were permitted and built after Constantine but there is another reason also. These were to guard against heresies. Schismatics were always suspect during those days and the canon of Scripture was still in flux although it is forming. Today we have the sure Word of God and so perhaps this is why the cell group works so well. It's all part of the evolution of the church. Christopher

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Messages Inline: Outline:

1. A page from Philip Schaff's Church History by Christopher Yip, 2001, Apr 27

2. Clarifications by RTC, 2001, Apr 27

1. The NT Model is not Normative, Not Meant to be. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Apr 28

1. Bravo! Excellently Put Forth! (n/t) by Yesuthass, 2001, Apr 30

2. Not normative? On what basis? by RTC, 2001, Apr 30

1. And Normative on What Basis? by Christopher Yip, 2001, Apr 30

(_ On basis that such was NT practices everywhere in first 300 years by RTC, 2001, May 02

1. Real NT practices,and principles. by frank, 2001, May 02

1. Yes, and so? (n/t) by RTC, 2001, May 03

2. Is that therefore biblical? by Christopher Yip, 2001, May 03

1. Yes it is by RTC, 2001, May 04

1. Holds no water by passerby, 2001, May 04

1. You use wrong cup by RTC, 2001, May 08

(_ pick up the same dictionary and please enlighten us what it says about Church(n/t), 2001, May 09

(_ Church is building for Christian worship by RTC, 2001, May 09

(_ Hee...Hee...Can't you even see the obvious contradictions to your arguments???(n/t), 2001, May 11

1. You tell me, and make sure it is biblical (n/t) by RTC, 2001, May 11

2. Hi Anon,, 2001, May 11

1. biblical?, 2001, May 23

1. Let's see if you pass the biblical test by RTC, 2001, May 23

1. Easton Bible Dictionary says..., 2001, May 26

1. And that dictionary exposes your unbiblical notion, not mine by RTC, 2001, May 26

1. Goes to show your mentality of... by passerby, 2001, May 29

(_ Come off it by RTC, 2001, May 29

2. Thayer's Greek Definition of Ekklesia by Christopher Yip, 2001, Jun 01

1. Still got more by RTC, 2001, Jun 05

(_ Not Much Point in going further ... by Christopher Yip, 2001, Jun 05

(_ The same point by RTC, 2001, Jun 05

(_ OK, One Last Shot by Christopher Yip, 2001, Jun 06

(_ Missed by a long shot? by RTC, 2001, Jun 08

(_ Perhaps it'sYou? Food for thought. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Jun 09

(_ More food on the table by RTC, 2001, Jun 11

(_ Your Food is Giving Me Indigestion :-)) by Christopher Yip, 2001, Jun 12

(_ That's because you are not chewing! by RTC, 2001, Jun 14

(_ Nope. It's Because Your Food Is Indigestible - Too Much Imagination. Will Stick With The Bible. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Jun 14

(_ If you really stick to Bible, you won't get the IC today! by RTC, 2001, Jun 15

(_ We stuck with the Bible and we got BOTH the IC and HC! by Christopher Yip, 2001, Jun 15

(_ Only by twisting and turning, not by sound exegesis! by RTC, 2001, Jun 15

(_ Here's Yet Another One of Your Blind Spots! by Christopher Yip, 2001, Jun 15

(_ That spot already cleared, the blind spot is in your position by RTC, 2001, Jun 17

(_ House Church (Again)! by PARROT, 2001, Jun 19

(_ Something else for you to Parrot by RTC, 2001, Jun 20

(_ Awck! Awck! RTC! RTC! PARROT KING!, 2001, Jun 26

2. Hahaha!!! Bagus, Anon! by Kapo Anon, 2001, May 23

1. Yes I agree by RTC, 2001, May 23

2. And also Anon, just let him talk to himself will do. , 2001, May 23

1. Thank you very much by RTC, 2001, May 24

(_ Sama, Sama!, 2001, May 24

2. This Should Be My Last Post for now. by Christopher Yip, 2001, May 04

1. More by RTC, 2001, May 08

(_ RTC, u still have not answered Christopher's queries but r repeating yourself again and again. by passerby, 2001, May 09

1. Because the same problems are being repeated by RTC, 2001, May 09

2. I see it too,RTC has the last words.But he clearly lost.n/t by frank, 2001, May 09

1. The loss is yours not mine by RTC, 2001, May 10

2. NO IC IN 1ST CENTURY DUE TO GOSPEL PRIORITY AMIDST PERSECUTION, 2001, May 03

1. Living in the Old? by RTC, 2001, May 03

(_ WHAT IS THE CHURCH LIKE IN THE FIRST FEW CENTURIES ?, 2001, May 03

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