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Time for Christopher to DO PENANCE. Pope Innocent III vindicated once again !
Reconciliation, Towards Unity: JOINT STATEMENT BY POPE, ORTHODOX PRELATE (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
PAPAL APOLOGY TO GREEK ORTHODOX (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
"Enemy" Churches Praying Together: Pope and Orthodox Archbishop Christodoulos of Athens (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
Read What Christodoulos Says to John Paul II (Christopher Yip)
Reflections on the Sack of Constantinople in 1204 and Lesser-Known Byzantine Atrocities (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
Greek Atrocities Against the Latins (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
Tit for tat eh? (Christopher Yip)
Pope Innocent III - The Crusades and His "AGENDA" ??? (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
Pope Innocent III: "The Crusade must not attack Christians" ; He Condemned the Crusaders. (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
Let the Eastern Orthodox Enlighten Dave Armstrong. (Christopher Yip)
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Christopher: Was it on Innocent III's
agenda to subject Constantinople to Latin Let me repeat: It is the desire and responsibility of every pope to see a ONE united CHURCH subject to the Rome. It is still the desire of the pope today. The above quotation does not prove your assertion. On the contrary, the source document you cited from tells us that the Pope has threatened to excommunicate the Crusaders if they attack Constantinople. "Organized to dislodge the Saracens and reduced to a filibustering expedition, the Crusade was now to be directed against Constantinople...Greek messengers appeared at Zara to appeal to Dandolo and the Crusaders to take up Isaac’s cause. The proposal suited the ambition of Venice... "As a compensation, Alexius made the tempting offer of 200,000 marks silver, the maintenance for a year of an army of 10,000 against the Mohammedans, and of 500 knights for life as a guard for the Holy Land, and the submission of the Eastern Church to the pope. The doge [chief magistrate of Venice] fell in at once with the proposition, but it was met by strong voices of dissent in the ranks of the Crusaders. Innocent’s threat of continued excommunication, if the expedition was turned against Constantinople, was ignored. A few of the Crusaders, like Simon de Montfort, refused to be used for private ends and withdrew from the expedition." "Before reaching Corfu, the fleet was joined by Alexius in person. By the end of June, 1203, it had passed through the Dardanelles and was anchored opposite the Golden Horn. After prayers and exhortations by the bishops and clergy, the Galata tower was taken. Alexius III. fled, and Isaac was restored to the throne." Not only that, it it clear that it was the Greek Prince Alexius himself who planned and initiated this campaign so as to take back the throne of Constantinople from the ursurper Emperor Alexius III, and to restore the throne to his father Issac. Christopher has slandered Pope Innocent III and the Church. It is time for Christopher to DO PENANCE - repent and confess and get right with God. Jesus says, "...men will have to give an account on THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned". (Matthew 12:36-37). (The word Greek word for justified used here is dikaioo, the same word used by Apostle Paul in Romans 3:28). It is also time for Christopher to renounce his Calvinistic one-time justification - "once justified always justified" - heresy. Christopher has been given sufficient information from Philip Schaff, the very source he carelessly and irresponsibly cited, which also vindicates Pope Innocent III and the Catholic Church from his false and irresponsible accusation. Notice is given. Christopher cannot claim ignorance before God. There is absolutely no evidence that the Sack of Constantinople was the Pope's "agenda" and pre-meditated "design". Counter evidence has now been given, a second time, this time from a Protestant historian - the very source Christopher himself cited from. -
http://www.patriarchate.org/book/Third_Period.html This passage has no connection with Pope Innocent III. Christopher is not vindicated even if the allegation is true. "The Popes of Rome would offer no aid". This is a mere assertion without documentation. Allegation rejected. The fact is, the Popes has responded to the Greeks' request, in spite of their schism, to assist them against the Turks in the very beginning, i.e. the First Crusade. - Innocent III., writing of the conquest of the city, says [of the Crusaders]: "You have spared nothing that is sacred, neither age nor sex. You have given yourselves up to prostitution, to adultery, and to debauchery in the face of all the world. You have glutted your guilty passions, not only on married women, but upon women and virgins dedicated to the Saviour. You have not been content with the imperial treasures and the goods of rich and poor, but you have seized even the wealth of the Church and what belongs to it. You have pillaged the silver tables of the altars, you have broken into the sacristies and stolen the vessels." (From Philip Schaff's article) |
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