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and losing one of your eternal crowns..."
God bless you...
From the Greek spokesman - enough to demolish anti-Catholic insinuations and innuendoes
Reconciliation, Towards Unity: JOINT STATEMENT BY POPE, ORTHODOX PRELATE (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
Joint Statement : Christian Fanaticism Condemned (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
Why the Greeks Opposed John Paul II's Visit - Not the Way anti-Protestant Mr Tan puts it. (Christopher Yip)
Never trust an anti-Catholic for fair comments about Catholic News Services. (Matthew Tan Yew Hock)
Ya. Like quoting Rome in support of Rome. (Christopher Yip)
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(See Below) This is from ZENIT.org, a Catholic news service. The Greek spokesman has spoken. One example is enough.
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/filial/hellas.html (See Below) -- Readers who have been following will be able to witness the constant mis-representations of Catholic teachings from Catholic official documents by anti-Catholic Mr. Yip and Company. More of such things to be revealed soon... And what of Orthodox Theologian like Meyendorff? Well, he himself testifies that Peter is the Rock in Matt 16:18, and that the Fathers who wrote that the Rock is Peter's confession are the same Fathers who wrote that the Rock is Peter himself. Something that anti-Catholic Mr. Yip continues to deny, and continue to assert that the Rock is Peter's confession ONLY. Even the Greek Church today holds the view that the Rock is Peter AND Peter's confession. So much for those who try to play around with the Greek language. The ridiculous thing is to cite resistance to Papacy as proof that Rome never exercised primacy of juridiction. Scripture tells us that even Jesus and Moses and Peter and Paul have one time or another been resisted by his followers (and of course by their enemies of faith). The Pope and the Church of Rome continue right to this very day not without some resistance from the sons and daughters of the Catholic Church - open disobedience and opposition in various theological and disciplinary areas. The Ecumencial Councils tell us again and again that Peter lives and speaks and judges through his successors - the Popes, the Bishops of Rome. Even the Greeks agreed at the Ecumenical Council(s) after the Sack of Constantinople. Even the schismatic Photius, the Greek Patriarch of Constantinple of the first millenium, attested to this very fact. Such solid historical information cannot easily be dismissed away. Does Catholic apologist mis-represent Calvinist position on sola fide? (NOTE: Not all Protestants are Calvinists - a dying generation). Well, Dr. Horton has a chance to respond to Sungenis, and we will wait and see what kind of nonsense he is going to come out: by faith alone and faith not alone; justification not separated from sanctification, yet he MUST separate them. -- This is from ZENIT.org, a Catholic news service. http://www.angelfire.com/tx/filial/hellas.html Greece Visit Opens New Perspective, Aide Says Interview with Spokesman of Archbishop Christodoulos ATHENS, Greece, MAY 6, 2001 (ZENIT.org-AVVENIRE).- John Paul II's request for God's forgiveness for Catholics' sins against the Orthodox is "very important for us," says the spokesman for the Greek Orthodox primate. After his meeting with the Pope on Friday, Archbishop Christodoulos, primate of the Greek Orthodox, said: "The Pope has been very kind to us and we are happy." Later, in an interview, his spokesman Haris Konidaris continued that positive assessment of the papal visit. Konidaris was also one of the behind-the-scenes negotiators who prepared John Paul II's visit to Greece. --Q: What did you think of John Paul II's address to the primate of Greece? --Konidaris: It was exactly what we expected. The fact that he asked for God's forgiveness, for Catholics who have sinned against Orthodox brothers, is very important for us. What he did before the Lord is significant, because this really calls for Christian charity. An act that is even more important, if one considers that it has not been done in just any place, but in the see of the primate of Greece. --Q: Can the dialogue between Greek Orthodoxy and the Catholic Church be renewed? --Konidaris: The dialogue has existed for many years, but John Paul II's visit opens a new perspective. With his address, the Pope has removed heavy burdens from the way, which impeded going forward. Of course, differences and problems remain, but now there is the common conviction that solutions can be reached. --Q: John Paul II did not mention the question of the "Uniates" [the name used by the Orthodox to express contempt for Eastern-rite Christians who left the Orthodox Church to recognize papal authority]. --Konidaris: It's true, but let's give time [some] time. When I spoke earlier about the problems that are still under discussion, I was referring especially to the question of the Uniates. In any case, the Pope spoke explicitly of wounds that cause sufferings to the Greek people. This was the recognition we wanted. --Q: Christodoulos went to Moscow on Saturday to meet with Alexy II. Will he open the way for a papal trip? --Konidaris: The Pope's visit to Moscow is a decision that belongs to the Russian Church, and the Greek Church has not voice in the matter. If Patriarch Alexy wants a report on the outcome of the Pope's visit to Athens, I think His Beatitude Christodoulos will express his own opinion and refer to facts. --Q: Namely? --Konidaris: The Pope of Rome has taken an important step in relations with us, and the Greek Church has shown courage and readiness to receive him. ZE01050603
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