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Forum: Theological Expressions
Date: 2001, Jun 11
From: <Anonymous>

Q: Doesn't the Bible exhort "whosoever will" to come? A: Yes, it does. The Gospel message is addressed to all men. However, just who "wills" to come? We know that the natural man does not understand the things of the Spirit of God (1 Corinthians 2:14) and that no man seeks after God (Romans 3:11). We also know that the Lord Jesus said that no man is able to come to Him unless the Father draws him. So, outside of God's initial move in regeneration, no man will "will" to come to Christ. Q: If God has already chosen who will be saved, why share the gospel, since they will be saved whether we are involved in evangelism or not? A: This is probably the most common objection that is voiced against the doctrine of election. There is a clear answer, but before getting to that, we should note that the question is not a proper one; that is, our questions should be based upon the teaching of the word of God, not what we can or cannot necessarily understand. Even if we did not have an answer to the question, would this necessarily mean that Ephesians 1:11 does not teach what it obviously teaches? But, we do have an answer anyway. First, we evangelize to glorify God. We do not go out to "save" anybody, since we are incapable of doing that in the first place. We share the gospel because by so doing, we bring glory to God. If that is all the reason we had, it would be sufficient. But there is more. We know that God has given us a great privilege to be used by Him in His work in this world. He has given to us a blessing to be able to share the gospel with men. God has decreed both the ends and the means. He has decreed to use men in sharing the gospel with His elect. Why has He done so? I do not know. I only know that His Word reveals that it is so. God has not seen fit to give us knowledge of who is, and who is not, His elect. Therefore, we share the gospel with all men, and trust God to honor the proclamation of His message by drawing the elect unto Himself. We can share boldly with all men, knowing that God is powerful to save, and as long as we seek to glorify Him, He will care for us and bless us with His Spirit.

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Messages Inline: Outline:

1. I differ from yours. by frankielee, 2001, Jun 12

(_ drag/draw, 2001, Jun 13

(_ Can a person resist the 'drawing'? n/t by SK, 2001, Jun 13

(_ drawing-faith, 2001, Jun 13

(_ Concerning what Jesus said about being His sheep. by SK, 2001, Jun 13

1. SK:I am amazed at your soundness of speech.n/t. by frankielee, 2001, Jun 14

2. Let's look at it in the context by Interested , 2001, Jun 14

1. Talking to a Scientist must use scientific analogy. :-)) by SK, 2001, Jun 14

1. Hi SK! by Interested , 2001, Jun 14

2. To be His sheep is simple.Believe in Him,and not them. by frankielee, 2001, Jun 14

1. Ah......Frank has seen the light! by SK, 2001, Jun 14

3. Sheep talk, 2001, Jun 14

1. Hi Anonymous & Interested, by SK, 2001, Jun 14

1. To SK again by Interested , 2001, Jun 14

2. Elelction and Free Will, 2001, Jun 14

1. Predestinations, Elections theories,by Augustine and John Calvin. by frankielee, 2001, Jun 14

1. Doesn't help, 2001, Jun 15

1. SAME AS TRINITY DOCTRINE - ONLY POSSIBLE WITH GOD, 2001, Jun 15

1. good works, 2001, Jun 15

2. Any scientists to help us here? by SK, 2001, Jun 15

1. To SK by Interested , 2001, Jun 16

1. The earliest Creed, to SK by Interested , 2001, Jun 16

1. Thanks for your reply Interested... by SK, 2001, Jun 16

2. To SK, I missed "and His kingdom will have no end". by Interested , 2001, Jun 18

1. Theology is the study of God by Interested , 2001, Jun 18

2. Hey Truth Light, have you seen the light by now? by SK, 2001, Jun 18

1. Search more.... by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 18

(_ Origin of Trinity by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 18

(_ Is the Trinity Pagan? by RTC, 2001, Jun 19

(_ The problems of subordination. How can the Son not know what the Father think if they are equal. n/t, 2001, Jun 19

3. Clarify by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 18

1. To TrueLight, cc SK by Interested , 2001, Jun 19

1. Biblical data is sufficient by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 19

1. Hi TrueLight by Interested , 2001, Jun 19

2. To TrueLight, on your statements of faith by Interested , 2001, Jun 20

1. I have to explain.... by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 21

2. Hey Truelight! by SK, 2001, Jun 19

1. Monarchianism - the belief that the godhead is singular, consisting of one monarchia, 2001, Jun 19

1. OK lah...quote is easier...so here's the counter-quote for you ;-) by SK, 2001, Jun 19

1. All questions dealt before by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 19

(_ The Presumption of all presumptions!!! by SK, 2001, Jun 20

2. I think you should explain your faith in your own words instead of refering to URLs. Thank you. n/t by Interested , 2001, Jun 19

1. You did not follow... by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 20

(_ Do you mind sharing.. by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 20

(_ Hey, my faith is quite simple. by Interested , 2001, Jun 20

(_ But it does not follow .... by Interested , 2001, Jun 20

(_ Hahaha!!! You're very biblically collect n/t by SK, 2001, Jun 20

3. Modalisms = Denial of the full biblical revelations concerning the Son and the Holy Spirit by SK, 2001, Jun 20

1. Faith comes by hearing... by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 21

(_ The Confusion of all confusions... by SK, 2001, Jun 21

(_ More revelation will be revealed as the coming of Christ approach. by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 21

1. Jesus stated it Himself concerning the 3 in the Godhead... by SK, 2001, Jun 21

1. I have to correct your serious mistakes by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 23

1. On rebaptism by Interested , 2001, Jun 23

1. .......As long as Jesus name is preached. by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 23

(_ Reply to TrueLight by Interested , 2001, Jun 23

(_ You misunderstood again... by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 24

1. Always quoting DB !!?!! Hasn't his book been used to interprete the Bible instead? n/t, 2001, Jun 24

2. To TrueLight, Clarification by Interested , 2001, Jun 25

1. Is that your purpose? by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 25

(_ Reply to TrueLight again by Interested , 2001, Jun 25

2. I've run out of patience talking to you...I suggest... by SK, 2001, Jun 23

2. Jesus Christ is the final revelation of God by Interested , 2001, Jun 21

1. All revelation found in the Bible by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 23

2. John by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 19

1. Why did John have to say "... and the Word was with God..? by Interested , 2001, Jun 19

(_ The Word by TrueLight, 2001, Jun 21

4. Ah...when the elephants fight ... the ant (me) will step aside! ;-)) by SK, 2001, Jun 19

5. A little corrections. by frankielee, 2001, Jun 21

1. Hi Mr Frank, by SK, 2001, Jun 21

(_ Did God choose us and when did He do it? by Interested , 2001, Jun 22

1. Hey Interested, by SK, 2001, Jun 22

1. Hi SK, by Interested , 2001, Jun 22

2. SATAN WILL BE FOOLISH TO WASTE HIS TIME, 2001, Jun 22

2. It Helps. by frankielee, 2001, Jun 20

1. some answers, 2001, Jun 22

2. To Anonymous, You are quite right by Interested , 2001, Jun 14

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