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Forum: Theological Expressions
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Elect
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I differ from yours. (frankielee)
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drag/draw
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Can a person resist the 'drawing'? n/t (SK)
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drawing-faith
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Concerning what Jesus said about being His sheep. (SK)
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Sheep talk
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Hi Anonymous & Interested, (SK)
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Elelction and Free Will
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Predestinations, Elections theories,by Augustine and John Calvin. (frankielee)
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Doesn't help
Date: 2001, Jun 20
From: frankielee

Those passages of yours was expounded by me sometimes ago and was unchallenge,and my views were correct.Perhaps you were not there then. John Wesley,either he was right or he was wrong;and such charge against Doctrines of Calvinistics and Augustine's errors,left one very helpless.Only one option.Either you agree with John Wesley or reject him.There is no two way about it.If you persists that Election theories is right,then Wesley have erred tremendously,and by calling them as Blasphemies doctrines,are very serious charge.
Since you feel that Election is scriptural,then John Wesley has erred.Or you are the one who made the serious errors.
The Bible warned against speculations which grew higher than God.Yet we have Christian speculating to the extent that,"God do not left things to chance".Is Eistein views accepted in God's Kingdom about this?No and never!He died a sinner,and died condemned and was a fool.The Bible says that whosoever do not believe in Christ,shall be condemned.He was one of them.
God allow things to happen.Until the times of Noah,when God's anger reaches in extreme,He destroyed the World by flood.It is man's problems promted Him to respond.
We have watch too many films,and everything was in the hands of Director who control the endings to the minute details.
We know from scriptures that certain events God set,and is unchangeable.But as far as human Salvations is concerned,He left the option open.
Answer me one question,and I will oblige to answer yours three.
1,Did God gave sovereign Choice to man,either to rebel or love Him willingly?By answering this question,the rest will be clear.Or else,speculating that "God is omniscient,and Omnipotent...to the extent that man becomes a robot!"
God's plan is very clear.He provides the way.You walk in it.Case closed.To say that He provide the way and man was force into it,is alittle bit out of sound thinking and doctrines.