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Re: Note Elect
Re: Disagree I differ from yours. (frankielee)
Re: Feedback drag/draw
Re: Question Can a person resist the 'drawing'? n/t (SK)
Re: Idea drawing-faith
Re: Feedback Concerning what Jesus said about being His sheep. (SK)
Re: Feedback Sheep talk
Re: Feedback Hi Anonymous & Interested, (SK)
Re: News Elelction and Free Will
Re: Sad Predestinations, Elections theories,by Augustine and John Calvin. (frankielee)
Re: Warning Doesn't help
Re: Note It Helps. (frankielee)
Date: 2001, Jun 22
From: <Anonymous>

sorry that I coudn't reply earlier. Here goes.

Your question:

>1,Did God gave sovereign Choice to man,either to rebel or >love Him willingly?By answering this question,the rest will >be
> clear.Or else,speculating that "God is omniscient,and >Omnipotent...to the extent that man becomes a robot!" 

The question need some clarification.

Firstly loving him/rebel I hope you are asking in terms of "salvation", correct ? 1. If you mean "man" as in Today's living humans, and assuming that we are talking about salvation ( I am talking about salvation only ), then the answer would be: No. Man has no "soverign choice". BUT He has a choice. And it is inclined to reject God.

2. If you mean "man" as in Adam&eve, the answer is: YES. They had perfect Free Will. They were created that way.

3. If you mean "man", as true Believers, the answer is : YES. We have as believers a Free Will To love God and reject him today, BUT This is not in terms of Salvation, because we are already believers. So itis a Free Will to Sin or Obey God.

Hope this answers your question.

Few things to add. Frankee, I am not against you , don't feel like I am trying to put you down. This conviction I have is mine. I cannot believe otherwise unless I am convicted by the Spirit, right ?? Or else I will be living a Lie. Same goes for you. I am not trying to convict you.

Another thing to answer in your post: You said:

>Only one option.Either you agree with John Wesley or reject
> him.There is no two way about it.If you persists that >Election theories is right,then Wesley have erred >tremendously,and by
> calling them as Blasphemies doctrines,are very serious >charge. 

I don't have to agree with anyone. All are human. Even Calvin was wrong in many things. I do however Agree with The Scripture. Scriture talks about Election in many places. I ahev given many quotations already. I only persist that Election is God's word only because it is in the Scripture, NOT because calvin or anyone else pointed it out.....

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