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Forum: Theological Expressions
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We need changed hearts, not miracles. (Wahshing)
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Why many kept calling myJesus,a false healer,today?
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It's time to come back from "Experience" to Scriptures! (Christopher Yip)
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All those queries and distortions were refuted long ago!Here's more.
Date: 2001, Aug 30
From: frank

In reply I say: "Since no charismatic healer can come up with genuinely verifiable cases of instant healing involving organic disease; since no charismatic healer heals everyone who comes for healing and hundreds go away from their services as sick or as crippled as when they came; since no charismatic healer raises the dead; since the Word of God needs no confirmation outside itself and is sufficient to show the way of salvation; since charismatic hearings are based on a questionable theology of the atonement and salvation; since charismatic writers and teachers appear to disallow God his own purposes in allowing people to be sick; since charismatic healers seem to need their own special environment; since the evidence they bring forth to prove healings is often weak, unsupported, and over-exaggerated; since charismatics are not known for going into hospitals to heal though there are plenty of faithful people in hospitals; since most instances of healings by charismatics can be explained in ways other than God's unquestioned supernatural intervention; since charismatics get sick and die like everyone else; since so much confusion and contradiction surrounds what is happening – et me ask the return question: How do you explain it? It certainly is not the biblical gift of healing!"
Frank:Intellectual reasonings always had problems.Attacks against Charismatics by pure fabrications and distortions proves we have the real thing,indeed. 1,During those days of Jesus,people were against His healing of the sick for reasons,according to Biblical explanations,"it is out of JEALOUSIES".You will see this word often. Is there any verifiable instant healings of organic disease? This query stems from Unscientific,poor knowledge,and deep rooted blindness.Why? A disease inside the body,how to instantly verified? Like the case of a woman who testifed that "a lump had dissapeard in her body as she felt warm coming over her body instantaneously,after prayer" Frankie suggests,pay few hundred thouand of dollars to get the set up of scanning device,X-tray machine,and ready to shoot,once instant healings occur.
The Christian meetings usually last 2 hours.One verifiable cases takes 2 hours,in order to be meticulously sure,and there are hundreds of divine healings occurred,....all of us here need not go to work and earn a living.The congregations had to practice like the over zealous people,or to get certificate of attendance,2000 hours in a Christian meetings!!!
Get the relevent testimony,double confirmations can come later!
Can Charismatic healer heal people?What kind of foolish,and slander to a such great proportions can escape us again? As a charismatic,I would like to know of such a healer in the world today,who can heal people!Every Charismatic knew of no healer but Jesus Christ,our healer!
To add to insult and stupid arguments of a gigantic proportions,why is not everyone heal in a Service meeting. Next time you go to see a doctor,and you will all get heal.
1,The Unbeliefs prevent healings.This is a fact.If you do not believe in Christ,you will perish.This is a fact. Must everyone get healed to proves something? Must the whole world become Christian to proves that our Lord Jesus is the saviour?
2,People who are sick,seeking the Healer Christ Jesus,must first of all believe in HIm.If you come seeking healings and just for see see,and test test,look look...no sincerity,no faith,full of doubts...as the scriptures had said,"those who waverth in their faith,and double minded man,let him not think he can get anything from God".
Jesus said,"they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover....it tells us of progressive improvements..shall recover."I have seen more people waver before their full recovery and curses began to come forth just hours of Prayer.
People who come for Healing Touch by our Saviour,without perseverance,patient and Faith,would be dissapointed. Kathryn's cries was for all to have instantaneously healings manisfested for all to see,immediately,or for all to get well instantaneously. She desire everyone to get well immediately!!!The distortions came about now to attack something really silly.Why is not everyone heal?Do we desire to get well immediately when we are sick?Or do we like prolong pain?
Not everyone will be heal is clearly understood.Smith Wigglesworth,would not want to pray for a woman,who was full of pride.He walk away,seeing her pride.After she humbled,he prayed and later she recover completely.
Why was there so much confusions about simple issues,in Charismatic circles?It is because of these carnal Christian who set out to hurt what God us doing in His Children lives.
Do we get sick and die?Christ is our healer,why do we get sick?In other words,the answer is,"""we shouldn't be sick" Do we die?It is appointed for us,once to die and after death,judgement".
Why say our theology is questionable,and atonement of Christ which promise deliverance form sick as contradictions? The non-charismatic world, who does not believe Christ bore 39 stripes which were also for our atonement for healings.They have failed in their theologies and correct doctrines.They were proven to be short sighted and totally ignorant of this atonement aspect of Christ.
I would like to question for those who still persist to feel we are questionable in doctrines. 1,Did Lord Jesus bore those 39 stripes,being whipped by Roman Soldiers,then? 2,Is interpretation of sriptures correct to say,"By His strpes we are healed?" 3,Did Christ bore my infirmities and afflictions?
Now,please tell me,who has really questionable theologies? Who distort the scriptures? Who is trying to teach doctrines of the demons,which is despising the Holy Words of God?
You pick your choices.Do you still wants to hold dear to the doctrines of the devils or come to Christ for revelations and truths?
Christian Concern. frank