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Forum: Theological Expressions
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We need changed hearts, not miracles. (Wahshing)
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Why many kept calling myJesus,a false healer,today?
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It's time to come back from "Experience" to Scriptures! (Christopher Yip)
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All those queries and distortions were refuted long ago!Here's more.
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"Refuted"? You mean "rancour", don't you? (Christopher Yip)
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I oblige You. (FrankieLee)
Date: 2001, Sep 01
From: Christopher Yip CKHY

Dear Frankie,
If you wish to oblige me, you then need to provide verifiable evidence, not just assertion. Can you give us the full newspaper report? I'd like to see what sort of evidence has been given in the newspaper. Sensational news is not ipso facto truth.
Since you claimed that Kuhlman insisted on medical verification, can you provide some specific cases? William Nolen, the medical doctor who investigated Kathryn Kuhlman, did such verification extensively. Here is his findings. Can you provide something like that?
"Dr. Nolen had Miss Kuhlman herself send him a list of the cancer victims she had seen "cured," and this is what the doctor discovered:
'I wrote to all the cancer victims on her list – eight in all – and the only one who offered cooperation was a man who claimed he had been cured of prostatic cancer by Miss Kuhlman. He sent me a complete report of his case. Prostatic cancer is frequently very responsive to hormone therapy; if it spreads, it is also often highly responsive to radiation therapy. This man had had extensive treatment with surgery, radiation and hormones. He had also been "treated" by Kathryn Kuhlman. He chose to attribute his cure – or remission, as the case may be – to Miss Kuhlman. But anyone who read his report, layman or doctor, would see immediately that it is impossible to tell which kind of treatment had actually done most to prolong his life. If Miss Kuhlman had to rely on his case to prove that the Holy Spirit "cured" cancer through her, she would be in very desperate straits.'
Dr. Nolen did further follow-up work on eighty-two cases of Kathryn Kuhlman's healings, using names she supplied. Of the eighty-two, only twenty-three responded and were interviewed. Nolen's conclusion at the end of the entire investigation was that not one of the so-called healings was legitimate.
'Kathryn Kuhlman's lack of medical sophistication is a critical point. I don't believe she is a liar or a charlatan or that she is, consciously, dishonest .... I think she sincerely believes that the thousands of sick people who come to her services and claim cures are, through her ministrations, being cured of organic diseases. I also think – and my investigations confirm this – that she is wrong. The problem is – and I'm sorry this has to be so blunt – one of ignorance. Miss Kuhlman doesn't know the difference between psychogenic and organic diseases. Though she uses hypnotic techniques, she doesn't know anything about hypnotism and the power of suggestion. She doesn't know anything about the autonomic nervous system. Or, if she does know something about these things, she has certainly learned to hide her knowledge.
There is one other possibility: It may be that Miss Kuhlman doesn't want to learn that her work is not as miraculous as it seems. For this reason she has trained herself to deny, emotionally and intellectually, anything that might threaten the validity of her ministry.' "
Christopher