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Re: Note We need changed hearts, not miracles. (Wahshing)
Re: Sad Why many kept calling myJesus,a false healer,today?
Re: Warning It's time to come back from "Experience" to Scriptures! (Christopher Yip)
Re: Warning All those queries and distortions were refuted long ago!Here's more.
Re: None "Refuted"? You mean "rancour", don't you? (Christopher Yip)
Re: News I oblige You. (FrankieLee)
Re: None And I am STILL waiting ... (Christopher Yip)
Date: 2001, Sep 02
From: FrankieLee frank

Hi Chris,I really hope that you are a specialist Doctor,and surely could detect Dr. Nolen's most profound bias investigations. """Prostatic cancer is frequently very responsive to hormone therapy; if it spreads, it is also often highly responsive to radiation therapy. This man had had extensive treatment with surgery, radiation and hormones. He had also been "treated" by Kathryn Kuhlman. He chose to attribute his cure – or remission, as the case may be – to Miss Kuhlman. But anyone who read his report, layman or doctor, would see immediately that it is impossible to tell which kind of treatment had actually done most to prolong his life. If Miss Kuhlman had to rely on his case to prove that the Holy Spirit "cured" cancer through her, she would be in very desperate straits."""Dr. Nolen. Frank:According to Dr Nolen,this man who claimed to be healed of Prostatic cancer,thought that he was healed of prostatic cancer,....actually nobody can tell how he was healed...because,there is a remission possibilty,or the cure could be one of those treatments,so it was said.

This is a greater miracle of God as I read it.Since no one knows,layman,or doctor,or Nolen could explain how he could be prolong in life,and yet Miss Kulman could atribute it to the work of God,and sent him medical reports boldly for him to investigate.

Nolen does not believe in God,very obviously;nor on miracles of God.My inferance,since it said that he was not an Evangelical.

So Dr. Nolen had no way to disprove Miss Kulman's claim,but mere assertions.Even layman or Doctor do not acertain which methods of Treatment,that prolong his life. It reminds me,"I was healed from blindnes,how or what cause me to see,I do not know.I was blind and now I see".

THERE IS NO MEDICAL PROVES PROVIDED BY NOLEN'S WORDS TO DISPROVE,OR STATE SPECIFICALLY HOW THAT PROSTATICS CANCER PATIENT WAS HEALED/OR CLAIMED TO BE CURED.

Is Kulman in desperate straits to use such a case to prove God's healings?Nolen himself was actually in deep confusion and desperations to attack Kulman without reasonable basis or on medical grounds.We will see more.

Nolen:Nolen's conclusion at the end of the entire investigation was that not one of the so-called healings was legitimate. Frank:Mere assertions.Since you like to say such things.Nolen's appeared to be lying strait to the core.

Nolen:Miss Kuhlman doesn't know the difference between psychogenic and organic diseases. Though she uses hypnotic techniques, she doesn't know anything about hypnotism and the power of suggestion. She doesn't know anything about the autonomic nervous system. Or, if she does know something about these things, she has certainly learned to hide her knowledge.

Frank:Assertions again.
Frank:You show to any medical experts in the world today and let them examine the most stupid arguments provided by Dr Nolen.Any rationale person would throw this Nolen's words out to the window,but for anti-christ people,they will embraced articles of Follies,as usual.
1,Of course Kulman knew nothing about psychogenic and organic disease.She was no medical proffessions.She was a preacher. 2.Assertions that Miss Kulman uses hypnotic techniques? Miss Kulman uses hypnotic to treat prostrate cancers? Is Nolen trying to tell us by Auto suggestions it can healed people of prostrate cancers?Is it a new inventions unsurpass of medical science today!

3,False accusing of Kulman unjustified.The most stupid arguments against the supernatural occurance in Kathrn's meetings to auto suggestions.Is Nolen a hypnotic experts? The things that happen in Kathrn's meetings unsurpass all human knowledge and analysis.It is God.

No thanks to lead us to read non-christian doubts and unbeliefs about God. Assertions of: Nolen,and Chris's seem to agree:///There is one other possibility: It may be that Miss Kuhlman doesn't want to learn that her work is not as miraculous as it seems. For this reason she has trained herself to deny, emotionally and intellectually, anything that might threaten the validity of her ministry.///

Frank:This is the unrighteous remarks,and auto suggestions,sublime of hatred,"""" against a woman of God,whose testimony stand taller than those false accusers.

Today,every Christian who knows her work,can decide and see that it is indeed miraculous,in her work for God.And it is God who supernaturally moves upon her.

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1. None But unfortunately, you are not. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 02
1. Ok Superficial or deep,at a glance? by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 02
1. Ok Frank and Chris, pls read, thankyou by Emmanuel, 2001, Sep 04
1. None Nope. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 04
1. Agree Good Reasoning, Chris, would like to hear from Frank too! eom by Emmanuel, 2001, Sep 05
2. Question Hi Chris, I have a question for people who cessationists by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 05
1. Agree On Cessationism by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 06
(_ Ok In so saying.... by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 06
(_ None Wrong way by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 06
(_ Ok Please correct me if I have not yet figured it out by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 09
(_ None Response by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 09
1. Note Hi Chris by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 09
1. None You still have a few strawman arguments which I rebutted but you are getting there. (eom) by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 12
2. Note Ahhh I see your point now and I wonder whether Frankie can share his by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 12
3. None Save-by-grace gave good response. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 12
1. Idea Ok maybe to avoid another Theological debate between you and Chris by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 12
1. Feedback Die hard fans,of the fallacies! by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 13
(_ More Hi Frankie by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 13
1. Feedback Gifts of Healing? by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 14
2. Idea ONE point ,for clarity first. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 14
1. Idea Please get a copy of A Diary of Signs & Wonders by Maria Woodworth-Etter. That book speaks volume. eom by saved-by-grace, 2001, Sep 14
2. None From a cessationist named Frankie. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 13
1. Disagree Frankielee....this is utter nonsense! (But USA is top priority now) eom by saved-by-grace, 2001, Sep 13
1. None Pls do not blame Frankie or Chris, if you wish to blame you can blame me instead by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 13
1. Feedback explanation by saved-by-grace, 2001, Sep 14
2. Agree Glad that you think so! Now, go look at Frankie's responses to mine. Familiar? (eom) by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 13
2. Disagree Jack Deere knocked down too many fallacies. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 14
1. None One point to illustrate,Jack Deere says... by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 14
1. Disagree blah blah blah ... in the end, BLANK! Rebut this, Frank. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 15
(_ Warning Chris,it is time you surrender,and be silent. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 16
(_ Angry Frank, go enrol yourself for study and stop misleading people with your ill-logic and unbiblical teachings. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 16
2. Disagree ... until you BLUR? by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 15
3. Note I retract for the record of Truths. by Frank, 2001, Oct 07
3. Idea This old cessation's views were very wrong. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 07
1. Disagree I'd rather be submissive then to demand. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 09
1. Disagree Submissives in proper perspectives. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 09
2. Disagree Continue,for right perspectives. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 09
3. None We can glorify God by our Faith in Him. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 09
2. None Response by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 04
2. Idea Let us exercise Sound reasonings. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 02
1. Agree Betol Lah!!! Very good insight! by SK, 2001, Sep 02
1. Warning Be warned...!!!! by John Doe 666, 2001, Sep 03
1. Question Are you're suggesting all the past healings crusades are of the Devil? n/t by SA, 2001, Sep 03
1. News John Doe 666 is quite extreme when it comes down to End Times Apostacy, which is why he is quoting these verses by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 03
1. Idea Just think. Can Mr '666' be contradicting himself? by SA, 2001, Sep 04
(_ Agree I agree with you tt the Anti-Christ would not oppose the Devil. I just think he is more a messenger of End Time Apostacy by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 04
(_ Agree Yah lor, just read what he's saying most of the time lah! Hehehe!!! by SA, 2001, Sep 04
2. Warning some insights by John Doe 666, 2001, Sep 04
1. Agree On this note, I fully agree with you. by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 04
1. Note Never read the Bible carefully...no Christ in the Old Testament. n/t by SA, 2001, Sep 04
(_ Ok Hi SA, do you really believe there is no Christ in OT? by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 04
(_ Feedback You're wrong by SA, 2001, Sep 06
(_ Ok oh actually i do know that Emmanuel comes from OT. Ü still wondering what we disagreeing over? by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 06
2. Feedback Let's reason out properly with the help of the Holy Spirit. by SA, 2001, Sep 04
1. More some answer by John Doe 666, 2001, Sep 05
(_ Feedback some replies by SA, 2001, Sep 05
(_ More some more by SA, 2001, Sep 06
3. Question Simple Question For Mr Six Six Six by Emmanuel, 2001, Sep 05
1. More Untitled by John Doe 666, 2001, Sep 07
(_ Feedback The woman is UK??? How interesting!! And what is the man-child? n/t. by Interested , 2001, Sep 07
2. Agree Hmm...You got a point there, let me do some research....eom by Emmanuel, 2001, Sep 04
3. Feedback Quote Book of Zephaniah 2:1-3 , a plea for repentance, Joe (eom) by Emmanuel, 2001, Sep 05
2. None Maybe they should be worshipping Kuhlman instead! ;-) (eom) by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 04

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