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Forum: Theological Expressions
Re: Note We need changed hearts, not miracles. (Wahshing)
Re: Sad Why many kept calling myJesus,a false healer,today?
Re: Warning It's time to come back from "Experience" to Scriptures! (Christopher Yip)
Re: Warning All those queries and distortions were refuted long ago!Here's more.
Re: None "Refuted"? You mean "rancour", don't you? (Christopher Yip)
Re: News I oblige You. (FrankieLee)
Re: None And I am STILL waiting ... (Christopher Yip)
Re: Disagree Please be open and I assume you are reasonable.1. (FrankieLee)
Re: None But unfortunately, you are not. (Christopher Yip)
Date: 2001, Sep 02
From: FrankieLee frank

When a person claim to be healed of cancer,it is no small matter.The victim themselves are the best possible person to know how it happen and what really cause it.23 people allowed to be interview by a "Agnostic Dr."Today,there are also many doctor refuses to accept supernatural occurance in the face of facts and happennings or they may lose their job,as one told me that. God is the creator and we know it is true.He heals today just like yesteryears.What Dr Nolen dismmisses is about all possibility of God's interventions as false.This cannot be true.Is there no God? Chris:Obviously not, Frank. So we are not sure if a miracle healing has taken place or a natural cure has been effected and while it is OKAY for YOU to assume therefore it is a miraculous healing without giving any evidence, I am WRONG to say the evidence is shaky.. Frank:You seem reasonable.

You can be neutral.It is another thing to suggest it is shaky,when all evidence suggest it is NOT Shaky. 1,Evidence One.That person found that Cancers are gone from the body.He gave praises to God.He prayed to Jesus,and allowed to be prayed for in Jesus name by Evangelist Kulman.Faith believes in Him first,without any medical so called evidence. He trust in God and believe in Him the healer.Now he found out it is gone,can it attribute it as natural occurance without interventions of God?Is that sound?Is it wrong to immediately give praises to God ?How wrong to attribute such a healings ascribe to God?

Am I talking to an unbeliever here? There is nothing happen by chance in our life.There is a real God and,if it natural heals by itself,say remissions for cancer victims,I am very sure God has a hand in it.Science is still far away from God to discover healings.they still cannot find cures in cancers.Some wise doctors state this way,"My x-tray show he had cancers,now it is no longer there.I don't know". Frank says,It is a miracle.

One medical doctor operated on a woman,and found One Tumour look like a shape of a Mouse,even with eyes closed..it is weird.Medical science is not that advance to explain mnay things!

Nobody hates Kulman.I think you are ignorant,and your posts show you are innocent of this very one thing. There are many hates her and even "fake photo of her kissing the pope,and bow to the pope!!!!""I seen the photo in 1979. Is it real photo? There are many hate her for preaching the gospel,as it always happen,the good and the bad came from the states. Kulman always attribute all testimony of healings to God ,and Jesus the healer. If the Testifier lies,it is not in her control. If the person testifer how he/she got well through such and scuh a place,it is the testifier testimony.

If someone play punks,blufing her,by sitting in awheel chair and later claim he was healed,and walk,it is the deceiver's fault.

I prayed for one woman in 1980s,who could not bend her back.I told her to bend down,as I was trusting God to cause her to be well.She tried very hard and to no avail.Very dissapointed. Those days,there are literal throngs pulling me to pray for this and for that person.To lay hands....I was blaming God in my heart for failing to heal her......

In my heart I was struggling.Faith in God also meant patience and standing firm. The next thing I know,she was in the stage demonstrating to all that she can now squat and bend down with ease. Many who are not privy to this patient would think "maybe she was not sufferring form back problems at all,or just by auto-suggesstions she was well,etc etc.Or she may be just putting a false one claiming to be healed but actually another Misunderstanding.

Who knows better ,but me?I was intensely very upset and couldn't have peace for the whole night.Surely she struck me with greater confidence in my Faith in God!

My neigbour,a little boy met an accident and was wheeled to Hospital.The parent said that this little boy of 8 years will die,due to frature of the skull,and crushed bones in the head,etc etc.

I get his brother and told him that his brother,the boy will be healed and will be O.K.I told him to be a witness to this incidents,forever.I prayed along the corridors,1977...few months later,the Doctor medical reports were out.The boy had a remarkable recovery...This is good enough for me to prove that my Jesus is truly alive.Jesus heals. His brothers,many of them gave their hearts to the Lord,and still faithful to Him.

A person feel sick,and later feel Ok.What is healed? A person who could not hear clearly.After i prayed for him,and I check whether he could hear clearly now.He replied he could hear much better.Am I a fool to jump into conclusions that a miracle has occure?

For me,I say,Yes. It maybe auto suggestions,or estatics high feelings or maybe a case of misunderstanding...but I get the evidence first hand,and I speak accordingly!

I really wish to obscure many secrets to the skeptics,so as to refute them when open debate is challenge!!

Our walk with God is a walk of Faith.In a spiritual world,deceivers are around so are God" angels. We are not fighting flesh and blood,but against evil lying spirits and demons all around.To say that the spiritual world is not real and true,it is an Unbeliefs to God's words.

i really wish you could be another Jack Deere,or John Wimber,who were enlighten to the truths of real manisfested presence of God.These theologians had been blessed with this new found reality,and were no more skeptics.I hope you may find Him real and true.

The battle for truths is not so difficult.Just pray,and U will get the answers. God's speed,my friend.

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1. Ok Frank and Chris, pls read, thankyou by Emmanuel, 2001, Sep 04
1. None Nope. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 04
1. Agree Good Reasoning, Chris, would like to hear from Frank too! eom by Emmanuel, 2001, Sep 05
2. Question Hi Chris, I have a question for people who cessationists by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 05
1. Agree On Cessationism by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 06
(_ Ok In so saying.... by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 06
(_ None Wrong way by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 06
(_ Ok Please correct me if I have not yet figured it out by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 09
(_ None Response by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 09
1. Note Hi Chris by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 09
1. None You still have a few strawman arguments which I rebutted but you are getting there. (eom) by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 12
2. Note Ahhh I see your point now and I wonder whether Frankie can share his by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 12
3. None Save-by-grace gave good response. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 12
1. Idea Ok maybe to avoid another Theological debate between you and Chris by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 12
1. Feedback Die hard fans,of the fallacies! by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 13
(_ More Hi Frankie by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 13
1. Feedback Gifts of Healing? by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 14
2. Idea ONE point ,for clarity first. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 14
1. Idea Please get a copy of A Diary of Signs & Wonders by Maria Woodworth-Etter. That book speaks volume. eom by saved-by-grace, 2001, Sep 14
2. None From a cessationist named Frankie. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 13
1. Disagree Frankielee....this is utter nonsense! (But USA is top priority now) eom by saved-by-grace, 2001, Sep 13
1. None Pls do not blame Frankie or Chris, if you wish to blame you can blame me instead by Royston Ong, 2001, Sep 13
1. Feedback explanation by saved-by-grace, 2001, Sep 14
2. Agree Glad that you think so! Now, go look at Frankie's responses to mine. Familiar? (eom) by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 13
2. Disagree Jack Deere knocked down too many fallacies. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 14
1. None One point to illustrate,Jack Deere says... by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 14
1. Disagree blah blah blah ... in the end, BLANK! Rebut this, Frank. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 15
(_ Warning Chris,it is time you surrender,and be silent. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 16
(_ Angry Frank, go enrol yourself for study and stop misleading people with your ill-logic and unbiblical teachings. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 16
2. Disagree ... until you BLUR? by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 15
3. Note I retract for the record of Truths. by Frank, 2001, Oct 07
3. Idea This old cessation's views were very wrong. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 07
1. Disagree I'd rather be submissive then to demand. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 09
1. Disagree Submissives in proper perspectives. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 09
2. Disagree Continue,for right perspectives. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 09
3. None We can glorify God by our Faith in Him. by FrankieLee, 2001, Sep 09
2. None Response by Christopher Yip, 2001, Sep 04

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