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Re: None Fulfillment of Prophecy on 11 Sep 2001 ? New York City is Babylon the Great ? (Grace_Messenger)
Re: Feedback My two cents worth of thought (Joe)
Re: Note Details Must Fit and Spiritualization (Grace_Messenger)
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Re: Note Babylon and The Dispensation of the Grace of God (Grace_Messenger)
Date: 2001, Oct 07
From: Joe Joe

Do you not know that riches mean powers? Without riches, how can a nation build up her armed power? The breaking up of the former Soviet Union is still a vivid example. Japan has been on her economic downfall since the beginning of 90’s and she will never have a chance to expand her military power after WWII. All those points I raised in question are my suggested characteristics of a rich nation like America. My point was to help you to see how powerful is the States now if you had failed to understand my figuratively interpretation of the Babylon the Great in terms of NYC. Let your mind be open. This calls for a mind with wisdom.

The main problem you are having is that you believe that as long as the church is still under the grace of God, there is no prophetic program being fulfilled. Are you sure? Don't you remember Jesus' prophecies were fulfilled in His lifetime as well as apostolic time? Don't make your doctrine rules over the plan of God. God's grace to us is no difference from His grace to ancient Israel. In the OT, both law and grace were co-exist though law was in the limelight. While we are under grace and not under law, it does not mean we can live as if without any law. In fact, the grace of God enables us to live under the law of Christ, which is far more demanding than the law of Moses. Like the Israelites who came under God's judgement when they sinned, we would face the same music if we sin. Both Peter and Paul pronounced judgements on the body of Christ when sins prevailed. Furthermore, your understanding of the dispensation of the grace of God will only confirm your argument is weak in that you don't even get the period right. You surely owe Saved-by-grace's questions! Clearly, John the Baptist confirmed Jesus was full of grace and truth as He came from the Father.

Grace_messenger, don't be deceived by false doctrine, don't be indoctrinated by sweet messages lest you suffer from spiritual diabetic. Destruction will come suddenly and Christ will return like a thief in a night. Be ready or perished!

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