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take away = remove, not discipline 

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Re: be acquainted with the teaching about righteousness (Keith)
Re: The righteous acts of the saints (Ivan)
Re: Untitled (Keith)
Re: Can the saints be cut off from the vine? i'm trying to find some answers to some questions only. eom (saved-by-grace)
Re: A good question indeed. (Royston Ong)
Date: 2001, Oct 20
From: saved-by-grace saved-by-grace

John 15:2 ( NASB) "Every branch in me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it, that it may bear more fruit." You're right, the Father prunes (disciplines) but only those who bear fruit, not those who doesn't. This is what the bible says, not me. If Jesus had meant discipline for 'take away', then please read verse 6. John 15:6 (NASB) "If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch, and dries up; and they gather them into the fire and they are burned." Who is the one who doesn't abide in Christ? The one who isn't bearing fruit (see v 5). So isn't 'take away' having the meaning of 'throw away' according to the texts?

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1. Th problem lies with the Greek word AIRO by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 20

2. Revelation of John 15 by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 20

1. What is branch? by True Light, 2001, Oct 21

1. Please hold that thot by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 21

2. Hi TL, new insights to John 15. This time round from Watchman Nee by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 23

3. pruning vs disciplining by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 20

1. Concerning Bruce's explanation by saved-by-grace, 2001, Oct 21

1. The question: lift up or take away? by Ivan, 2001, Oct 21

1. Untitled by saved-by-grace, 2001, Oct 21

2. In-Depth Study by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 21

4. You are right by True Light, 2001, Oct 21

1. Hey True Light by saved-by-grace, 2001, Oct 21

1. Yes, I think we share the same view by True Light, 2001, Oct 21

2. Hi SBG, by Interested , 2001, Oct 22

1. Well... by saved-by-grace, 2001, Oct 22

1. If you want to understand why I reject Trinity, you must read up more on Oneness. by True Light, 2001, Oct 23

(_ Dear True Light by saved-by-grace, 2001, Oct 23

1. Hey True Light! - Very amusing, indeed. by Interested , 2001, Oct 23

1. I also got no problem. I think the one who got problem is you. EOM by True Light, 2001, Oct 23

1. May be, but Oneness Pentecostalism is not one of them and never will be. n/t by Interested , 2001, Oct 23

2. Arianism are called Christian Universalism in modern time by True Light, 2001, Oct 25

1. Hi True Light, don't know what you are talking about. by Interested , 2001, Oct 25

(_ Anyway, if you are interested, check for yourself regarding Christian Universalism. EOM by True Light, 2001, Oct 25

(_ Thanks, but am not interested. n/t by Interested , 2001, Oct 25

2. We have debated before but no direct answer given by True Light, 2001, Oct 23

2. You don't understand because you never make an effort to read. by True Light, 2001, Oct 23

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