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Revelation of John 15 
be acquainted with the teaching about righteousness (Keith)
The righteous acts of the saints (Ivan)
Untitled (Keith)
Can the saints be cut off from the vine? i'm trying to find some answers to some questions only. eom (saved-by-grace)
A good question indeed. (Royston Ong)
take away = remove, not discipline (saved-by-grace)
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Who is the one who doesn't abide in Christ? The one who isn't bearing fruit (see v 5). So isn't 'take away' having the meaning of 'throw away' according to the texts? Good questions indeed. Now to address your second portion. I am glad you quoted in NASB, as I like NASB's translations most. John 15:2 "Every branch IN ME that does not bear fruit, He takes away" John 15:6:"If ANYONE does not ABIDE IN ME, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them , and cast them into the fire and they are burned" Emphasis in BOLD is on purpose. So important words are IN ME. The key to understand John 15:2 is that these branches are abiding in Christ, as they are branches in HIM. Therefore, contextually, it is certainly discipline. However, John 15:6 are branches that are not abiding IN HIM, or another way to put it, was never a part of Christ in the first place. John 15:2 is clearly for Christians while John 15:6 are for those who are not for Christ. Hope this helps. royston |
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What is branch? by True Light, 2001, Oct 21
Please hold that thot by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 21
Hi TL, new insights to John 15. This time round from Watchman Nee by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 23
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