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Who should we focus on? 
We are NOT sinners (Keith)
SAINTS OR SINNERS? (Ivan)
We still sin but we are not call sinner (True Light)
SAINTS OR "AINTS" (Ivan)
just for your info... (Royston Ong)
Royston, please do not put words in my posting:" I say it is natural to be AWARE I am a sinner" eom. (Ivan)
In God's eyes, (Royston Ong)
If God does not see you as a sinner (Royston Ong)
Are you also questioning what Apostle Paul said, "I am chief sinner"?eom. (Ivan)
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Ivan,
I don't deny that we are sinners if we choose to see things using our fleshly eyes. But I sincerely believe that our Father's will is for us to look at ourselves through His spiritual eyes. I believe you agree with me that it's not a recommended practice to take a verse out of it's context and place too much emphasis on it. In this case, I would agree with Royston that we should read the verse in question in the entire context of that letter (and in all of Paul's writings). Who is the main focus in all of Paul's letters? Jesus or Paul himself? We would be greatly encouraged, edified, and empowered when we learn to focus on who Paul is focusing on, and emphaisise what Paul is emphasising. There is much peace, joy and hope in the knowledge that we are IN CHRIST and as such, we are the beloved children of our Father. Let's encourage one another to revel in such knowledge. In His Grace, keith
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The right focus by Ivan, 2001, Oct 21 
On the whole by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 21
It is finished. Let's agree to disagree and move on. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Oct 21
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