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Thanks for your affirmation, Interested. 
We are NOT sinners (Keith)
SAINTS OR SINNERS? (Ivan)
We still sin but we are not call sinner (True Light)
SAINTS OR "AINTS" (Ivan)
just for your info... (Royston Ong)
Royston, please do not put words in my posting:" I say it is natural to be AWARE I am a sinner" eom. (Ivan)
In God's eyes, (Royston Ong)
Hey Royston, (Interested )
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"Actually you are right. Yours is the Gospel of historical christianity. But you have to appreciate that those who have been brought up under the Pentecostal/Charismatic Faith will not be able to see this and so you have to make allowance for them. It is not easy for people to change and can take many years." Thanks for your encouragement and advice on where my Gospel stand is. I did not realise that Pentacostals/Charismatic Faith's Gospel is different from ours. I thought that we are on the same page, is it not? After all, Calvinism, Arminianism and Word of Faith have all emphasised the complete works of God and that salvation is already settled for the believers. Is it not? Therefore, what then constitutes Modern Christianity? The reason why I ask this is because I find people like Ed Silvoso, Franklin Jenkins, Brian Houston preaching messages similar to that of Word of Faith or Arminianism. Why then would the Pentacostals still not be able to be on the same page with us? "One thing to notice is that people in historical churches don't worry about loosing their salvation at all. What they worry about is how to please God." You are truly right about this fact. This is where Calvinism and Arminianism plus, Word of Faith are having split hairs over. The problem with denominational churches is the issue of how much good works is truly enough, even when we know our salvation is guaranteed. We spend so much time trying to work at our own sanctification and removing of our list of sins, thinking we are never good enough though we know that our salvation is settled. In that process, we fail instead to be a blessing to the nations and also a preacher of the Gospel. Which is why Methodism, Anglican, Presbyterian and Baptist churches are not really growing at a phenomenal rate when we compare ourselves to those of the Pentacostals/Charismatics. This I agree we need to learn from them. And I do agree that we have our strengths as well, that we know our salvation very well. Praise be to God. royston |
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Hi Royston, by Interested , 2001, Oct 21
On Modern Christianity by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
Modern Christianity? by True Light, 2001, Oct 22
Let's talk about other things. by True Light, 2001, Oct 22
On Methodism's Sunday Christians... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
Are we talking about sinner or Christian? by True Light, 2001, Oct 22
We cannot really say they do nothing for only God knows their hearts, and that is more important by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
Made a typo... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 23
Who is "those" by True Light, 2001, Oct 23
Yes, we are getting closer to understanding each other, probably like 3/5 there. Ü by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 23
We are closer now, 4/5 by True Light, 2001, Oct 23
On topic of discussion in future by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 25
To Royston, on Philippians 2:12 by Interested , 2001, Oct 23
Who is correct? by Ivan, 2001, Oct 23
On "working out one's salvation", To Ivan by Interested , 2001, Oct 24
I have already answered on "work out your salvation"........ by Ivan, 2001, Oct 24
Good. Once you make up your mind new discoveries ceases. n/t by Interested , 2001, Oct 24 
Actually, my stand is both are right, have not changed that stand since 5 yrs ago but... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 24 
Hello Interested by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 25
Hi Royson, I said what I said because it is a waste of time arguing with the Arminian. Will get back to you again. n/t. by Interested , 2001, Oct 25
So it is then better to remain open-minded abt theology, just as one of my pastors is encouraging me to do? Ü thanks by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 28
Actually what Interested is saying regarding guilty feeling is this... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
Hi Royston, The Gospel. by Interested , 2001, Oct 22
Hi by Emmanuel, 2001, Oct 25
Hi Emmanuel Ü by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 25
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