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On Modern Christianity 
We are NOT sinners (Keith)
SAINTS OR SINNERS? (Ivan)
We still sin but we are not call sinner (True Light)
SAINTS OR "AINTS" (Ivan)
just for your info... (Royston Ong)
Royston, please do not put words in my posting:" I say it is natural to be AWARE I am a sinner" eom. (Ivan)
In God's eyes, (Royston Ong)
Hey Royston, (Interested )
Thanks for your affirmation, Interested. (Royston Ong)
Hi Royston, (Interested )
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"Modern chrisianity is a term I use but it is quite difficult define it. Other people have used terms like Today's Gospel, etc. Generally what we mean are those brands of the Gospel which doesn't seem to work and which makes the last state of a man worse than his first, sometimes even worse than a non-christian. For example, in the old days they used to preach that when you believe in Christ you will have joy and peace. I think such messages are no longer preached because the modern Gospel can no longer give a person such joy and peace. What it can produce is guilt and confusion as some of the contributions in this Forum have shown." Hi Interested, Got something to share with you, I am afraid that many Methodists are drifting towards Modern Christianity, once you have explained it this way. Many are actually not sure of their salvation. Many have not understood that the portion James talks about regarding works, is about works springing out from joy and knowledge that Christ has redeemed us from the cluthes of sin, and by faith, our works will be displayed. This is so, because of our current Sunday School system, which is fielded by Sunday teachers, who are serving God without first grasping the concept themselves. I do wonder whether some of them have the gift of teaching. Not many Methodists are having the same opinion as me in the stand of my salvation being secured in Christ. They think that they need to work out their salvation. While I come from the stand of working out my faith. How true about this issue of joy and peace. It was certainly a first response to the Early Christians when they heard the Good News. The first fruits of the Spirit: Love, Joy and Peace. Even our forefathers sang with so much gusto to the lyrics of the hymns and with full assurance of their salvation. Thanks for your sharing, it has helped me see clearly what are the things that needs to be settled first. God bless, royston |
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Modern Christianity? by True Light, 2001, Oct 22
Let's talk about other things. by True Light, 2001, Oct 22
On Methodism's Sunday Christians... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
Are we talking about sinner or Christian? by True Light, 2001, Oct 22
We cannot really say they do nothing for only God knows their hearts, and that is more important by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
Made a typo... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 23
Who is "those" by True Light, 2001, Oct 23
Yes, we are getting closer to understanding each other, probably like 3/5 there. Ü by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 23
We are closer now, 4/5 by True Light, 2001, Oct 23
On topic of discussion in future by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 25
To Royston, on Philippians 2:12 by Interested , 2001, Oct 23
Who is correct? by Ivan, 2001, Oct 23
On "working out one's salvation", To Ivan by Interested , 2001, Oct 24
I have already answered on "work out your salvation"........ by Ivan, 2001, Oct 24
Good. Once you make up your mind new discoveries ceases. n/t by Interested , 2001, Oct 24 
Actually, my stand is both are right, have not changed that stand since 5 yrs ago but... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 24 
Hello Interested by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 25
Hi Royson, I said what I said because it is a waste of time arguing with the Arminian. Will get back to you again. n/t. by Interested , 2001, Oct 25
So it is then better to remain open-minded abt theology, just as one of my pastors is encouraging me to do? Ü thanks by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 28
Actually what Interested is saying regarding guilty feeling is this... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
Hi Royston, The Gospel. by Interested , 2001, Oct 22
Hi by Emmanuel, 2001, Oct 25
Hi Emmanuel Ü by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 25
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