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Modern Christianity? 
We are NOT sinners (Keith)
SAINTS OR SINNERS? (Ivan)
We still sin but we are not call sinner (True Light)
SAINTS OR "AINTS" (Ivan)
just for your info... (Royston Ong)
Royston, please do not put words in my posting:" I say it is natural to be AWARE I am a sinner" eom. (Ivan)
In God's eyes, (Royston Ong)
Hey Royston, (Interested )
Thanks for your affirmation, Interested. (Royston Ong)
Hi Royston, (Interested )
On Modern Christianity (Royston Ong)
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Hi Royston,
Got something to share with you, I am afraid that many Methodists are drifting towards Modern Christianity, once you have explained it this way. Many are actually not sure of their salvation. Many have not understood that the portion James talks about regarding works, is about works springing out from joy and knowledge that Christ has redeemed us from the cluthes of sin, and by faith, our works will be displayed. *** Modern Christianity? I don't believe in that. I don't think the early Christians hold the "once saved always saved" doctrine. I don't hold that doctrine either. Contrary to what Interested said, I have peace and joy. If we sin against God, we repent and God is faithful and just to forgive us, nothing to be guilty of. The problem for those who became worst is because they lack of faith in God, they don't believe that God can forgive them so many times. Not many Methodists are having the same opinion as me in the stand of my salvation being secured in Christ. They think that they need to work out their salvation. While I come from the stand of working out my faith. *** Philippians 2:12 did tell us to work out our own salvation. Being a Christian and walking with God is never an easy thing. If it is that easy, God would not have told us to endure to the end. This doctrine of "once saved always saved" has a hand in the increased number of sunday christians or pseudo saints as mentioned by Ivan. Phi 2:12 - 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Jesus Loves True Light
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Let's talk about other things. by True Light, 2001, Oct 22
On Methodism's Sunday Christians... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
Are we talking about sinner or Christian? by True Light, 2001, Oct 22
We cannot really say they do nothing for only God knows their hearts, and that is more important by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
Made a typo... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 23
Who is "those" by True Light, 2001, Oct 23
Yes, we are getting closer to understanding each other, probably like 3/5 there. Ü by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 23
We are closer now, 4/5 by True Light, 2001, Oct 23
On topic of discussion in future by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 25
To Royston, on Philippians 2:12 by Interested , 2001, Oct 23
Who is correct? by Ivan, 2001, Oct 23
On "working out one's salvation", To Ivan by Interested , 2001, Oct 24
I have already answered on "work out your salvation"........ by Ivan, 2001, Oct 24
Good. Once you make up your mind new discoveries ceases. n/t by Interested , 2001, Oct 24 
Actually, my stand is both are right, have not changed that stand since 5 yrs ago but... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 24 
Hello Interested by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 25
Hi Royson, I said what I said because it is a waste of time arguing with the Arminian. Will get back to you again. n/t. by Interested , 2001, Oct 25
So it is then better to remain open-minded abt theology, just as one of my pastors is encouraging me to do? Ü thanks by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 28
Actually what Interested is saying regarding guilty feeling is this... by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 22
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