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Re: Question What is "heresy"?
Re: None Untitled (Bill Roth)
Re: Agree Hi Bill (Royston Ong)
Date: 2001, Oct 26
From: Bill Roth bmadroth

Hi Royston,

 

Yes, I am better. Thanks my friend.

 

Seems like I have heard the word "repent" more in the last 5 weeks than I have in the last 5 years.

 

In searching for understanding and resolution to the events before and after the tradgy in New York many have turned to the message of "repentance" that is promoted by various Christian groups.

 

The message I am hearing is this: God is angry with "America" for it's tollerance of homosexuality, abortion, and stem cell research and other sins. In his anger and wisdom he "allowed" terrorists to destroy the WTC and kill 5000 people. This was done to get the attention of the "Church" in America so it would  "repent" .and in doing so America will once again enjoy God's blessing. The call is for Christians to repent of their evil ways or face destruction.

 

Or in other words: "God loves you. Repent or die."

 

I am all for repentance. Repentance is change. Turning away from sin. Yes the "church" needs to change. On this I agree.

 

However, the notion that God somehow had a hand in orchestrating deaths of these 5000 people is preposterous.

All of the Scripture I see backing this up is Old Testament, as it related to Israel. I believe I sent you a link to David Wilkerson's post WTC sermon. That is a good example.

 

Some are saying that preachers like Wilkerson are opportunists, using the events of Sept 11 as a springboard to promote their churches and beliefs, by using fear to motivate people to repent and join their Church. I hope to God this is not true.

 

In my opinion it boils down to the same old argument of faith verse works as it relates to salvation. And also the understanding or lack thereof of God's grace and the current dispensation.

 

Romans sums it up for me. Romans 2:4 (KJV)

 

       "Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance
       and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God
       leadeth thee to repentance?
 

It is the goodness of God that leads one to repentance(change). The deaths of innocent people is not good.

 

God Bless,

 

Bill Roth

 

 

 

 

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1. Ok Thanks Bill by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 26
1. Pray You are doing fine. by Bill Roth, 2001, Oct 26
(_ Ok Haha for a moment, you sounded like my Senior Pastor talking to me by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 26
2. Question Hi Bill, is God good in the death of His saints (martyrs)?eom. by Ivan, 2001, Oct 26
1. Ok Hi Ivan I will answer . . . by Bill Roth, 2001, Oct 27
(_ Ok So, we can say that God is good always and in all ways. Thanks for the answer, Bill. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Oct 27

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