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Faith + Works = Righteous 
Getting into the "Secrets of the Vine" (Ivan)
Salvation & works
Thanks LBS, do you want to contribute and form your own conclusion,if any? eom. (Ivan)
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Hi LBS,
YOU SAID : Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. How can we ever ever be counted righteous? This verse say .. by faith – by simply believing what God tells you to believe: “faith in his blood” Rom 3:25. *** I don't quite agree. The faith you described above is called partial faith. Only with the inclusion of works can we consider full/perfect faith(James 2:22). We are counted righteous not by faith only, but by faith and works(James 2:20-24). True faith will produce works. James 2:1 1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. James 2:20-24 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Jesus Loves True Light
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You will not be burdened by works for the burden is on the Holy Spirit working in us; you are enlightened,TL. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Oct 30
Faith = Righteousness + Works by Keith, 2001, Oct 30
Faith + Works = Righteousness? by Interested , 2001, Oct 30
Hey Keith and Royston, Are you in the mood for some Algebra? by Interested , 2001, Oct 30
Some clarifications by True Light, 2001, Oct 31
Sorry! should be "counted" & not "accounted" righteous. EOM by True Light, 2001, Oct 31
so does ivan believe faith+works = righteousness or faith = works = righteousness? eom by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 31
To fine tune the equation of TL..... by Ivan, 2001, Oct 31 
Hi TL by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 01
Formula not truly represent our belief by True Light, 2001, Nov 01
Yes, True Light, we are in agreement on this area........ by Ivan, 2001, Nov 01
Agree! EOM by True Light, 2001, Nov 01
I understand, but i need to clarify as you gave Keith another equation Faith = Works = Righteousness. Do you still hold by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05
Explanatory note: the formula is meant to be read as: Faith in Christ produces Righteousness and Good Works in us. eom. by Keith, 2001, Oct 30
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