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Faith = Righteousness + Works 
Getting into the "Secrets of the Vine" (Ivan)
Salvation & works
Thanks LBS, do you want to contribute and form your own conclusion,if any? eom. (Ivan)
Responding
Faith + Works = Righteous (True Light)
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TL,
Pardon me for "messing" around with your formula. But I just can't resist it... I do not wish to be engaged in a debate on the different ways of interpretating James 2:20-24. Just want to list a few questions for you to think about: 1. When did Ahraham receive the imputation of righteousness? (a) when he believed God long before Isaac was born, or (b) years later, when he offered Isaac upon the altar 2. How long do you think was the time-lapse between the two events (a) and (b) in question 1 above? 3. Was Abraham a rigteous man justified in the eyes of God during that period of time? 4. Having considered the above questions, do you think that there might be a possibility that my proposed formula of "faith = righteous + work" is a workable and valid one? Or do you still think that the only correct formula is "faith + works = righteousness"? I know we are over-simplifying things here when we use mathematical formula to conceptualise our understanding of our faith. But I believe that it is still a worthwhile exercise for us to think through the logic of the two formulae presented above. The Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with us always, Keith
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Faith + Works = Righteousness? by Interested , 2001, Oct 30
Hey Keith and Royston, Are you in the mood for some Algebra? by Interested , 2001, Oct 30
Some clarifications by True Light, 2001, Oct 31
Sorry! should be "counted" & not "accounted" righteous. EOM by True Light, 2001, Oct 31
so does ivan believe faith+works = righteousness or faith = works = righteousness? eom by Royston Ong, 2001, Oct 31
To fine tune the equation of TL..... by Ivan, 2001, Oct 31 
Hi TL by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 01
Formula not truly represent our belief by True Light, 2001, Nov 01
Yes, True Light, we are in agreement on this area........ by Ivan, 2001, Nov 01
Agree! EOM by True Light, 2001, Nov 01
I understand, but i need to clarify as you gave Keith another equation Faith = Works = Righteousness. Do you still hold by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05
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