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Getting into the "Secrets of the Vine" (Ivan)
Salvation & works
Thanks LBS, do you want to contribute and form your own conclusion,if any? eom. (Ivan)
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Hi Truelight, Do me a favour first
Ivan, Truelight, Need your help to understand
Ivan, Truelight, Haven't got a satisfactory reply yet
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Hi LBS,
LBS: If you look at preceding verse Rom 11:5, it refers to the “remnant according to the election of grace”. This remnant of Israel are saved/elected according to grace. Rom 11:6 takes pain to say it is by grace, grace, got nothing whatsoever to do with works. *** It seems that you have shifted to the topic of election and predestination. Sorry, I don't think I can help you cos this is a very difficult topic. I personally believed that there will be peoples(remnant) who are predestinate to be saved eg Paul, but most of them are not. Sometimes, God need to put in or take out some peoples so that His plan will work. We have no right to question God. For those who are not predestinate, they are saved by faith in Jesus Christ, and faith is a respond to God's grace. Jesus Loves True Light
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