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common ground: we are all saved in Christ 
Getting into the "Secrets of the Vine" (Ivan)
Salvation & works
Thanks LBS, do you want to contribute and form your own conclusion,if any? eom. (Ivan)
Responding
Hi Truelight, Do me a favour first
Ivan, Truelight, Need your help to understand
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LBS,
The fact is: this debate has been going on for centuries. And I seriously don't see an end to it here in this forum. I believe that even though Ivan and Truelight may not agree with the "once saved, always saved" concept like we do, they are true believers in our Lord Jesus Christ, and they are as gloriously (and eternally) saved as we are. May I suggest that we just pray for and bless one another in the Lord's love? And let us also assure our dear brothers in Christ that we are also strongly against sins, and are totally for doing good works for our Lord. As for their fear that I may lose my salvation...my reply is: "thanks brothers. but I'm not worried at all because i fully trust that my Lord will keep me in His grace. and if you still worry for me, then just pray for me and trust that He will preserve me, okay?" What do you think? in His grace, Keith
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A matter of life and death by LBS, 2001, Nov 02
I have to explain further because you believe in an empty faith. by True Light, 2001, Nov 03
Faith is believing what God ask you to believe by LBS, 2001, Nov 03
Hi LBS by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 04
But we must be consistent by LBS, 2001, Nov 04
The mysteries of Abide in me, AND I in you by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05
To further add by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05
Hence, nothing about works comes into play, but it follows the same train of thought as by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05 
Fully agree with you on this. by Keith, 2001, Nov 05
Maths class by True Light, 2001, Nov 05
Actually, TL. I am afraid it is not at all close to a summation rule, as proposed by both Ivan and yourself eom by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 06
Hi TL by Keith, 2001, Nov 06
I like your explanation on the baby christian equation. by True Light, 2001, Nov 06
On baby christians and balanced teachings by Keith, 2001, Nov 07
You are right! different approach. by True Light, 2001, Nov 07
True believer? by Keith, 2001, Nov 08
Thanks. EOM by True Light, 2001, Nov 08
Yah yah, am certainly moving along the same wavelength as you are by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 08
Go ahead, if it helps to make things clearer for all. by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05
Still see inconsistencies regarding Jn 15:1-8 by LBS, 2001, Nov 06
What kind of "once saved always saved" do you believe?. by True Light, 2001, Nov 07
Please see post "Recap" by LBS, 2001, Nov 09
TL and SBG are unable to see past it, does not mean they totally disagree by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 08
Confounded by LBS, 2001, Nov 09
Am a little tired as I reply this.... by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 10
Understand you are tired by LBS, 2001, Nov 11
Please re-read my earlier posting to you.... by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 10
I twist verses? by True Light, 2001, Nov 04
You didn't read me post properly by LBS, 2001, Nov 05
Re-post by True Light, 2001, Nov 05
I haven't changed my belief! by LBS, 2001, Nov 05
Your answer not clear by True Light, 2001, Nov 05
Please see post "Recap" by LBS, 2001, Nov 09
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