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A matter of life and death 
Getting into the "Secrets of the Vine" (Ivan)
Salvation & works
Thanks LBS, do you want to contribute and form your own conclusion,if any? eom. (Ivan)
Responding
Hi Truelight, Do me a favour first
Ivan, Truelight, Need your help to understand 
common ground: we are all saved in Christ (Keith)
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Keith, I dare say Ivan & Truelight do not believe/preach that if you trust in the blood of Christ alone, then you are forever saved. Truelight, for instance, says “I believe/preach the following gospel: Christ died for our sins and we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ. As children of God, we must continue to obey the commandments of God. Faith without works is dead.” Notice he won’t stop after his first sentence. True living faith according to him must also be borne by evidence of works which is the responsibility of believers to ensure in order to enjoy the ultimate blessing of eternal life. And if they are right in their gospel message, I am afraid, you and I are deeply misguided. God says in Gal 1:9 “ As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” There can only be one correct gospel for salvation that you and I must believe in and preach. I don’t think I am delving into trivial matters. Got it? |
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I have to explain further because you believe in an empty faith. by True Light, 2001, Nov 03
Faith is believing what God ask you to believe by LBS, 2001, Nov 03
Hi LBS by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 04
But we must be consistent by LBS, 2001, Nov 04
The mysteries of Abide in me, AND I in you by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05
To further add by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05
Hence, nothing about works comes into play, but it follows the same train of thought as by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05 
Fully agree with you on this. by Keith, 2001, Nov 05
Maths class by True Light, 2001, Nov 05
Actually, TL. I am afraid it is not at all close to a summation rule, as proposed by both Ivan and yourself eom by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 06
Hi TL by Keith, 2001, Nov 06
I like your explanation on the baby christian equation. by True Light, 2001, Nov 06
On baby christians and balanced teachings by Keith, 2001, Nov 07
You are right! different approach. by True Light, 2001, Nov 07
True believer? by Keith, 2001, Nov 08
Thanks. EOM by True Light, 2001, Nov 08
Yah yah, am certainly moving along the same wavelength as you are by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 08
Go ahead, if it helps to make things clearer for all. by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 05
Still see inconsistencies regarding Jn 15:1-8 by LBS, 2001, Nov 06
What kind of "once saved always saved" do you believe?. by True Light, 2001, Nov 07
Please see post "Recap" by LBS, 2001, Nov 09
TL and SBG are unable to see past it, does not mean they totally disagree by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 08
Confounded by LBS, 2001, Nov 09
Am a little tired as I reply this.... by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 10
Understand you are tired by LBS, 2001, Nov 11
Please re-read my earlier posting to you.... by Royston Ong, 2001, Nov 10
I twist verses? by True Light, 2001, Nov 04
You didn't read me post properly by LBS, 2001, Nov 05
Re-post by True Light, 2001, Nov 05
I haven't changed my belief! by LBS, 2001, Nov 05
Your answer not clear by True Light, 2001, Nov 05
Please see post "Recap" by LBS, 2001, Nov 09
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