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I haven't changed my belief! 
Getting into the "Secrets of the Vine" (Ivan)
Salvation & works
Thanks LBS, do you want to contribute and form your own conclusion,if any? eom. (Ivan)
Responding
Hi Truelight, Do me a favour first
Ivan, Truelight, Need your help to understand 
common ground: we are all saved in Christ (Keith)
A matter of life and death
I have to explain further because you believe in an empty faith. (True Light)
Faith is believing what God ask you to believe
I twist verses? (True Light)
You didn't read me post properly
Re-post (True Light)
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Hi Truelight, It is absolutely important that I make it clear that I still believe that salvation is by faith in Christ's blood and "once saved, always saved". But you asked me how I would understand the verses in Jn, Matt, James, so I was just answering to your query. LBS: Are you serious when you said the above, that Romans is talking about a certain group of people that are destined to be saved, which means does not apply to people like you or me? Truelight: You have misread me also. I said "the scriptures you quoted in Roman" and not "the whole book of Roman". What I am saying is that Paul is speaking to the saints in Roman, and in Roman 11:5, he is telling the saints that there will be a a remnant of Jews that are predestined to be saved. You would like to read Rom 11:1-7 again especially verse 1. LBS: Didn't misread you. Want to stress to you that the gospel of salvation that Paul presented in Rom 3:25,28 is meant for obedience of every one in Rome who would believe, in fact, for all men because "all have sinned", see Rom 3:23 |
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Your answer not clear by True Light, 2001, Nov 05
Please see post "Recap" by LBS, 2001, Nov 09
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