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Getting into the "Secrets of the Vine" (Ivan)
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Salvation & works
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Thanks LBS, do you want to contribute and form your own conclusion,if any? eom. (Ivan)
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Responding
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Hi Truelight, Do me a favour first
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Ivan, Truelight, Need your help to understand
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common ground: we are all saved in Christ (Keith)
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A matter of life and death
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I have to explain further because you believe in an empty faith. (True Light)
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Faith is believing what God ask you to believe
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I twist verses? (True Light)
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You didn't read me post properly
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Re-post (True Light)
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I haven't changed my belief!
Date: 2001, Nov 05
From: True Light TrueLight

Hi LBS,
LBS: It is absolutely important that I make it clear that I still believe that salvation is by faith in Christ's blood and "once saved, always saved".
*** If you believe that some branches will be thrown into the fire to burn, how can it still be once saved always saved?. Also, you have not explain what will happen to those who does not endure to the end.
LBS: But you asked me how I would understand the verses in Jn, Matt, James, so I was just answering to your query.
*** I'm still not clear what is your interpretation of James. Would you like to share with clarity.
LBS: Didn't misread you. Want to stress to you that the gospel of salvation that Paul presented in Rom 3:25,28 is meant for obedience of every one in Rome who would believe, in fact, for all men because "all have sinned", see Rom 3:23
*** Which verse are you referring to?, Rom 3:25,28 or Rom 11:5?. If it is Rom 11:5, then Paul is not referring to us. If you still disagree, then we will leave it since we can't come into concensus. In Rom 3:25,28, Paul is asking the saints to focus on faith rather than works because some saints are doing "works" without faith at all. Paul does not mean that there must be no works, see Rom 3:31.
Do you agree that faith will produce works???.
Jesus Loves
True Light