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Re: Question Getting into the "Secrets of the Vine" (Ivan)
Re: None Salvation & works
Re: Question Thanks LBS, do you want to contribute and form your own conclusion,if any? eom. (Ivan)
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Re: None Hi Truelight, Do me a favour first
Re: None Recap
Re: Ok Please reconsider (Ivan)
Re: News not exactly agree (Royston Ong)
Date: 2001, Nov 11
From: Ivan Ivan

re faith and works of obedience with an equation. Like I said the resulting or subsequent works of obedience is a demonstration of the reality of our righteousness in Christ.

Apostle James put it in Js 2:24, "You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only." And hence the equation is being derived.

I think we are close in our understanding except we express it differently through our(TL/Ivan) equation and your flow-chart. Just feel comfortable with your flow-chart if it helps you to understand better and in your teaching that a life of obedience is paramount to the salvation process.

Because of Jesus,

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