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Getting into the "Secrets of the Vine" (Ivan)
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Salvation & works
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Thanks LBS, do you want to contribute and form your own conclusion,if any? eom. (Ivan)
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Responding
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Hi Truelight, Do me a favour first
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Recap
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Please reconsider (Ivan)
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not exactly agree (Royston Ong)
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We cannot hope to fully explain the Apostle James teaching on the 2 sides of the same coin (born-again heart)...... (Ivan)
Date: 2001, Nov 12
From: Royston Ong godwithus

demonstration of the reality of our righteousness..... then you cannot adhere to your formula any longer. Stop deceiving yourself, will you? By so saying that it is a demonstration of the reality of our righteousness... then you are placing righteousness as a pre-cursor to works of obedience. Stop deceiving yourself. Seems like you do not even know what you are writing here, for what you are saying is in fact my flow chart. Sorry to say that to you, but this the truth, though you have chosen to be blind all these while.