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Re: Warning If Singapore doesn't become a Christian nation by 31/12/2001 ...
Re: Idea God could still do it (Bernard Soh)
Date: 2001, Nov 01
From: John Doe 666 John666

You wrote:

I am amazed by the number of Churches that are being built in this land, aren't you? I am first not favouring that term "Chirstian Nation" as a physical government professing that they rule by the Book. However, I am all for a spiritual "Chirsitan Nation" that lives in harmony with other races and religion but their influence to turn the hearts of the people of the land towards God had taken root and bore fruits for the Glory of God. We are living in exciting times and the grow in knowledge of the Lord is blosoming, even though the Churches in this land have yet to acknowledge that All things are possible WITH GOD.

John666:

Let me give you some information:

1. The number of churches is an inaccurate indicator of how many desciples Jesus has. A church-goer by default does not become a desciple. If I look around in the church today, the number of desciples are so few. I see a lot of converts, but a few desciples. There is a big difference.

2. What is so exciting about the times we are living in ? If you are talking about being in church service and hearing the pastors 'pep' you up, I guess one can say it is "emotionally" exciting. What else do we have there ? We see a lot of church goers moving from one church to another. Is that exciting to see ? maybe when they come to your church it is.

3. You say that the knowledge of the Lord is blossming. I don't know what you mean. ??? If the knowledge of our Lord is blossoming, then more should be becoming like Him, or atleast making attempts to be so. All I see is that strife and bickering increasing in the body of Christ. fighting among churches, people of God..etc..unity by compromise....false prophets....false teachers....Come on...We can see that the church has failed to influence the world!!!! We are being influenced by the World....... Just look around bro. The first thing we need to do if we want revival is to be truthful about the current state of our churchs. I don't see saints becoming more like Christ, but I do see more and more "SELF OBSESSION"......

Indeed, all things are possible to God, EXCEPT to go against His own WORD......which clearly states the deterioration of the church in the last days.....

Why are we trying to get 'hyped' in the opposite direction ???

-John666.

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1. Note Anticipation by Bernard Soh, 2001, Nov 01
(_ Idea my point - SELF MUST DIE by John Doe 666, 2001, Nov 02
(_ Ok Christ lives by Keith, 2001, Nov 02
1. Feedback Christ IN you by John Doe 666, 2001, Nov 02
2. Feedback Not only in Christ and grace, but grow....... by Ivan, 2001, Nov 02
3. Feedback On the destruction of the "self". by Interested , 2001, Nov 03
1. Idea Indeed the old Gosple by John Doe 666, 2001, Nov 05
(_ Feedback Hi Joe, Yes, I have heard it all before. by Interested , 2001, Nov 05
(_ Question So what does This mean then ? by John Doe 666, 2001, Nov 05
(_ Feedback thoughts on what it means to deny my self and take up my cross and follow Christ by Keith, 2001, Nov 06
1. Feedback It is about discipleship by Ivan, 2001, Nov 06
2. Question Untitled by John Doe 666, 2001, Nov 07
1. Ok okay, we are not disagreeing with each other. by Keith, 2001, Nov 07

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