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Nobody promotes sin - Go and read Isaiah 1, 2 
What is fallen from grace based on the word? (Eternally Saved)
Yr nick is not doctrinally sound...... (prophet)
Are you telling me that what you quoted is about fallen from Grace (Eternally Saved)
Yes eom (prophet)
then it's out of context where the word "fallen from grace " is first mentioned (Eternally Saved)
Then what do you mean? (prophet)
what I mean is.... (Eternally Saved)
Okay...gotcha.....Gal5 (prophet)
amen brother (Eternally Saved)
It's not OK when you condone sin, ES. Please refer to posting on "Why" by Joe. eom. (Ivan)
Yes ..just read the article why by Joe (Eternally Saved)
Who wins when sin is promoted as the "in" thing in America or any nation? Anyone care to answer? eom. (Ivan)
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Dear Ivan:
Nobody in the right mind promotes sin.. People sin simply because they are sinners... Even believer sin..let alone unbeliever.. Does God judge sin... yes, but not now..there will be a time of reckoning..at the great white throne judgement. Then why are such evils like WTC happening...?? If you are cocky and proud, you get humbled. America has been given ample warning and they did not heed.. (Never Turst in your Chariots and Horses...) It is just reaping what they sow... if someone sleep around, do drugs and get Aids..don't blame God.. they ask for it... If you are rude to people and get a equivalent response... don't blame God..u get what you sow.. God is not judging them.. Don't get our Father involved..He has got no sickness, calamity and disease to give. It is the dispensation of Grace now..they are just reaping what they sow... Stop thinking that just because you see on TV that the horribles things (violent, sexual immorality, homosexuality, occult) are happening means God will be judging America.. If that is the case..God should judge you too..for Jesus said that Anybody who look at a woman with lustful eyes has already commited adultery ( God's standard ), please don't tell me that you are free from it..even woman are not spared the temptations.. All of us fall, from time to time. What does that tell us, we have no power in ourselves to live the Christian life.. If you go by who is right and who should be judged, nobody can stand..Romans 2, 3 says we all fall short..and that includes you and me.. Remember Isaiah who started his ministry with " Woe to this, and woe to that..". After he met God, he sees God's high standard..all he can say is " woe to me". "Woe to others " mean you don't know God..u got no idea that he don't categorise sin like immorality is bad and worry is OK. ALL are sin. Jesus said if you break on law, you are guilty of breaking all. So how ? Do we just keep an eye close and keep on sinning..NO...God offer a solution..Jesus and to know his grace.. The grace and goodness of God will cause you to stop sinning, to come to repentance.. People sin when they don't feel love and happy. Check yourself, isn't it the same with you. YOu sin the most when you are unhappy or don't feel the Love of the Father. Christian who rely on their own power and ability cannot overcome sin, regardless of how sincere they are.. what more the unbeliever...what can u expect from them but more evils.. What am I promoting or suggesting ? That we conscientiously allow ourselves to be loved by him, EVERYDAY. Practise His presence and Love for you everyday and you will realise that the sin that you are struggling with will fall away like dried leaves... without any effort..that's entering into his rest (one form of it)
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Hi ES, your message is still the same, one of rationalisation (pardon me for saying) by Ivan, 2001, Nov 04
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