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Re: Question What is fallen from grace based on the word? (Eternally Saved)
Re: None Fallen from Grace (Bill Roth)
Re: Question Can a christian fall from Grace ? (Eternally Saved)
Re: Feedback Hi Bill You were right ..but there is more.. (Eternally Saved)
Date: 2001, Nov 04
From: Ivan Ivan

like "earn your blessings by reading the Bible,etc". It should be learn of your blessings. A lot of accusation (or evil speaking): believers are cursed. Have you ever wondered why Paul emphatically mentioned that he "wanted to know Christ and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death." May I put it to you that Paul knows that the greater He died to self(or flesh), the greater he will experience the power of His resurrected life in him. Paul has to decide to continue to crucify the flesh (The I-life "have been" crucified; it is present, continuous tense). That explains why Paul says in Gal 2:20, "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me."

You will do well to re-examine your teaching in the light of the Holy Scriptures. Pardon me for exaggerating by using "a lot". It is just to highlight the seriousness of the juxtaposition of your arguments to run down or misquote to make your positions appealing. Do you know that it is both nauseating and repelling to us for resorting to such tactics.

We have to stand on the unadulterated and pure word of God.

In His steps,

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1. Agree U know where we differ by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 05
1. Feedback Hi, Eternally Saved: a gentle reminder. by Keith, 2001, Nov 05
1. Agree Thanks for the reminder by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 06
2. Feedback Hi ES by Ivan, 2001, Nov 05
1. Ok Hi Ivan by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 06
1. Idea Hi ES, may I suggest that you just go ahead and share your testimonies... by Keith, 2001, Nov 06
1. Ok Hi Keith by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 06
(_ Ok Ok ES. I'm sure many of us would love to read and share more testimonies in this forum. eom. by Keith, 2001, Nov 06
2. Feedback It is the same message of running down other believers and writers of NT by Ivan, 2001, Nov 06
1. Feedback of course.... by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 06
(_ Ok It is my prayer that my life (Christ-life in me) will be a blessing to others....... by Ivan, 2001, Nov 06
(_ Feedback sure !! by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 06
(_ Feedback On Christian conduct by Ivan, 2001, Nov 08
(_ None just curious..How mant have you led to the Lord with your Christian lifestyle? by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 08
(_ Note I cant give you any figures now because the multiplication process is still in place till we meet in heaven........ by Ivan, 2001, Nov 08
2. Ok what is the sin that ensnares us then ? by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 05
1. Feedback According to the Amplified Bible, it is "that sin......... by Ivan, 2001, Nov 05

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