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Hi ES 
What is fallen from grace based on the word? (Eternally Saved)
Fallen from Grace (Bill Roth)
Can a christian fall from Grace ? (Eternally Saved)
Hi Bill You were right ..but there is more.. (Eternally Saved)
A lot of generalisations, a lot of inflated figures, a lot of misinformation ........ (Ivan)
U know where we differ (Eternally Saved)
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I think we are talking about 2 different "time zone". You are talking about pre-salvation period when our self-effort or self-work counts for nothing with regards to being initiated in Christ as highlighted by John Doe. During the sanctification period, the "works of obedience" which will determine the degree of Christ-life in us, "kicks in" as highlighted by Apostle James. So, now our faith is activated with the "works of obedience".
What is there to boast about the miracles and signs and wonders if there is lawlessness or disobedience. What is there "to rejoice about the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice that your names are written in heaven." It is also not about how well one starts, but how well one finishes. So many have finished the race: Apostle Paul and the cloud of witnesses and Dr Rev Billy Graham, etc. I read that a few of his contemporaries who are also well known evangelists during Billy Graham's time have disappeared from the scene. Maybe like Demas who have left Paul having loved this present world (2 Tim 4:9). Friend, we would like to know those whom you have influenced, will they still be around 5 or 10 years from now. So, please encourage your cell group members and other members of your church to finish well by encouraging them to do according to Heb 12:1,2 (including the message to lay aside every weight and the sin which so easily ensnares us,.....). Together, let's go for the finishing line to receive "the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing." 2 Tim 4:7,8 In His steps,
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Hi Ivan by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 06
Hi ES, may I suggest that you just go ahead and share your testimonies... by Keith, 2001, Nov 06
Hi Keith by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 06
Ok ES. I'm sure many of us would love to read and share more testimonies in this forum. eom. by Keith, 2001, Nov 06
It is the same message of running down other believers and writers of NT by Ivan, 2001, Nov 06
of course.... by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 06
It is my prayer that my life (Christ-life in me) will be a blessing to others....... by Ivan, 2001, Nov 06
sure !! by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 06
On Christian conduct by Ivan, 2001, Nov 08
just curious..How mant have you led to the Lord with your Christian lifestyle? by Eternally Saved, 2001, Nov 08 
I cant give you any figures now because the multiplication process is still in place till we meet in heaven........ by Ivan, 2001, Nov 08
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