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Hi Ivan 
"Slain by the Spirit", "Holy Laughter" & other stuff... (Ian Morris)
Questionable Practices (John Doe 666)
I hope you are not playing down the power of the Holy Spirit (Ivan)
No I am not (John Doe 666)
Does it mean if there are counterfeits, there is no real manifestations of the Holy Spirit in the Toronto Blessings..... (Ivan)
Does this mean Every manifestation in the Church is of God ? (John Doe 666)
Hi J36 (Ivan)
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Yes indeed that is very possible.
May I also give you other possibilities, just in case you think that is the ONLY possibility ? 1. It could be that the person has No spiritual experience what so ever and that he/she is just moved by the emotional experiences due to the make up of the person and that he/she fell down because the experience was sending a signal to the brain to shutdown ? ( This happen in extream pressurizing situations to all people ) 2. It could be that this person is under the influence of the evil one all the way, and that the evil one controls him/her to pretend to fall down and is under the power of the evil spirit's control. ? 3. The person is really physically exhausted and faints or goes into a fit or some medical contition like it ? 4. The evil spirit manifests itself in the person and pretends to go away from the person, but actually is hiding in him/her ? Since he/she is "unconcious" there is nothing a Christian can do to exorcise the evil spirit ? So, what is my point ? We shouldn't jump to conclusions, but pray for the person who is having this manifestation and also look out and see if there are real fruits after the manifestation. If the person does not change and also no change in lifestle to be more like Jesus, I can assure you that the manifestation is not of God.! -John666
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Dear J36 by Ivan, 2001, Nov 22
Hey Ivan, by Interested , 2001, Nov 22 
Dear Interested by Ivan, 2001, Nov 23
Hi Ivan, if you or ... by Interested , 2001, Nov 23
Just like to clarify and put it right that only JESUS HEALS; the workers and doctors are just God's instruments. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Nov 23
Hiding! by Eveline How, 2001, Nov 23
Never take the glory from God or you may be required to take leave to behold His glory. ...... by Ivan, 2001, Nov 23
On the greater works by Ivan, 2001, Nov 24
Ahhh.... simple by Eveline How, 2001, Nov 24
Long live the "kings and priests" by Ivan, 2001, Nov 24
Hi Ivan, among other things .... by Interested , 2001, Nov 24
I think that only Christian newspaper will welcome such happenings not the secular papers...... by Ivan, 2001, Nov 24
John 14:11-13 .. by Little Man of God, 2001, Nov 23
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