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Longsuffering

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On Dice and the Fixed Future - Part I (John Doe 666)
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Hi J36 (Ivan)
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Answer (John Doe 666)
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May I ask further (Ivan)
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Both (John Doe 666)
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So, God didnt fix our lives here though His knowledge is perfect; we fix our lives & choose the consequences, right?eom. (Ivan)
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No (John Doe 666)
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So, God fix our lives; we still make choices as though we fix our lives and face the consequences, right? eom. (Ivan)
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How come like to view as linear relationship? (Eveline How)
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Life is linear? (John Doe 666)
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Does God garantee that we will obey one day? (saved-by-grace)
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Obedience and the fixed future (John Doe 666)
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Not easy to reconcile the Sovereignity of God and the responsibility of men. (saved-by-grace)
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Dice is loaded against ALL humanity.. (John Doe 666)
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Hi J36 (Ivan)
Date: 2001, Nov 30
From: John Doe 666 John666

YOU: The Bible says very clearly that it His desire that none should perish, but that all (everyone) should come to repentance as SBG pointed out to you. He did not fix your decision; He knows your decision because of His perfect knowledge of all things. Please treat these issues separately and not push your opinion too far in your overzealousness.
When we become children of His mercy, we are commanded to follow His steps (God has a fixed plan for His children) according to Jer 29:11 when we delight in Him. Please be careful how you divide God's word.
John666:
I was only showing that in context, the ALL there is talking about ALL types and races and nations. You can read for yourself if you go through carefully.
You say that God has a fixed plan for His children, and what I am saying is that if His plan is fixed for Him, it can be shown that all our decisions are also fixed.
The fact that someone knows what I am going to do tomorrow for certain means that it is fixed. And since that someone is God alone, His knowledge cannot be wrong.
You:
In Rom 9:22, you have cleverly or unknowingly omitted the word "longsuffering" which proves His willingness to save.
John666:
Rom. 9:22- 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, ?
and I did not miss the word longsuffering.....
BTW: according to you, what then are "vessels of wrath fitted to destruction" ?
-John666