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Ivan....repost on pretrib discussion....
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You said.... <<<When the rapture takes place, it signifies the closure of the church age, and the Bride is now united with the Bridegroom. our Lord Jesus in heaven. How then can one embrace AC at the return of Christ for His bride in the clouds. Anyone care to explain? As believer of pre-Trib Rapture, I believe that the Church will be spared the Great Tribulation for this is the wrath of God poured out in judgment on those who reject Jesus, the RIGHTEOUS ONE. The true believers of Jesus will not meet the AC whose appearance is being restrained till the Church is taken away. The great apostasy will take place before the coming of our Lord Jesus (2 Thess 2:1-12). I think that the New Age Movement doctrines will be the seducing spirits that seduce many with its masterly twistings of Biblical doctrines to make them appealing to our human desires for eg, the Prosperity Gospel, etc. >>> I agree that the coming of our Lord is the end of the church age. HOWEVER, I believe that the tribulation and the wrath of God are two separate events. The Lord will come before the wrath of God. But the AC will persecute the believers in the tribulation. You are right to say that there will be those who will be seduced by the now popular fleshy doctrines appaeling to the flesh eg prosperity etc. These are the main propenents of the pretrib theology. . They believe that christians will be spared any pain. They are also the signs and wonders chasers. This is why they will meet the AC who will demonstrate the signs and wonders which will appeal to them.They will also be dubbed to accept the cooperation withn theAC to receive the mark to survive beacause they do not believe that that pain is part of the christian lifestyle. They will 'fall away' here when they have to face the test. Why do you say that the AC is restrained by the church? The important thing to recognise here is the TRIBULAATION of the AC is NOT the WRATH OF GOD. In Christ Jesus prophet
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Pri-trib is a good "escapism" but is it ture? n/t by Interested , 2001, Nov 26
Please discuss....thanks nt. by prophet, 2001, Nov 26
Hi, this subject is very wide and difficult to be domatic about. I think one must form one's own opinion. n/t. by Interested , 2001, Nov 26 
sigh, another case that it is so hard for a layman to interpret the bible..eom by Little Man of God, 2001, Nov 26
It is difficult for everyone . . . not just "laymen". . .EOM by Bill Roth, 2001, Dec 01
Which trib? by Ivan, 2001, Nov 26
Ivan...my position on the Rapture by prophet, 2001, Nov 27
The problem with post-trib view by Ivan, 2001, Nov 27
Untitled by prophet, 2001, Nov 28
Be counted worthy to escape by Ivan, 2001, Nov 29
Nope by prophet, 2001, Nov 29 
Remain faithful by Ivan, 2001, Nov 29
Persecution by prophet, 2001, Nov 30
Hey Hey by John Doe 666, 2001, Nov 30
The Bride of Jesus by Ivan, 2001, Nov 30
I will be ready..... by prophet, 2001, Nov 30
Let's sound the warning for I hear the sound of the pounding hoofs of the 4 horses of Apocalypse approaching. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Nov 30
Untitled by prophet, 2001, Nov 30
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