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Re: Question Could someone shed some light on... (simpleman)
Re: Feedback It is all in the mind. (Interested )
Re: Warning Wrong! (prophet)
Re: Feedback If you are scared of something then you should do something about it. Fear is a bondage. n/t. (Interested )
Re: Feedback Truth (prophet)
Re: Feedback Sorry, don't agree with you. (Interested )
Re: Idea A word of caution -Fro Interrested (John Doe 666)
Re: Feedback Fear of the Devil (from the Net). (Interested )
Re: Note maybe word use is NOT FEAR EVIL BUT TO SHUN & AVOID EVIL (Little Man of God)
Re: Agree Well, the Lord by His Spirit is speaking to us to have no fellowship with the demons promoted thru' whatever form.eom. (Ivan)
Re: None Most amusing thread (Eveline How)
Re: Warning Thread 648-3 (Joe)
Re: Warning "H Potter" is fit for the potty, no matter how many accolades and box office records set (Ivan)
Re: None Untitled
Re: Idea On the contrary..... (John Doe 666)
Re: None Please (Eveline How)
Re: Feedback Casting down every imagination (Ivan)
Re: None So (Eveline How)
Re: Feedback It's all about choices, knowing the difference and doing what's right (Ivan)
Re: None If (Eveline How)
Date: 2001, Dec 10
From: Ivan Ivan

<<<You say: If you had been more responsible in your earlier postings, you won't have to suffer the indignities of having your inconsistencies and fallacies pointed out. So ARE you doing what you preach; afterall you seem bent on having nothing to do with anything remotely "evil." Throwing out objectionable books will hurt no one else except your wallet, and maybe the auntie at the rubbish dump (who might actually be grateful for she can sell the books for scrap paper). And if your children are still in school, better withdraw them from the secular school system lest they be exposed to horrific things such as pornographic writings and ex/anti-Christian thinking. >>>

Sorry, for your info, talking of books; no hardcore books allowed in my home and also HP books. My children are in mission schools-so they are protected from hardcore books. You have to separate what is objectionable which is relative from what is hardcore like pornography books and witchcraft books. You will know, being so well-read what is hardcore and objectionable like using of obscenities and vulgarities in the books. These types of books may breed addiction for they appeal to the lust of the flesh and lust of the eyes. These types of books are not allowed in the schools. If you are the Minister of Education, will you have done otherwise. I have no objection in reading books on other faiths for these will give me the needed knowledge to bring them to faith in Jesus Christ or interest them to discuss about Christianity. I cannot agree with you that the evil in witchcraft books like HP is remote; it is realistically real. I think we better not throw such hardcore books in the rubbish dump without first burning them for when place in wrong hands we may breed another "Jack the Ripper" or sprouting of covens.

<<<You say: And you can always voice your concerns to the Minister of Education. The Government has been very open and you can get the Minister's email address from the Government website. Writing to the Minister is hardly uncouth behaviour. I'm sure he'd love to have your feedback. Same thing on the bookstores, with them carrying more and more new age and occult books. >>>

This is really uncalled for because if they are objectionable they will not be allowed in schools. If you are the Minister of Education, will you do otherwise. He will not allow it in the first place; writing to the Minister is really uncalled for. Be careful that you are not deceived like the bookstore owners. Anyway they will bring in anything that sells within the law of the country for their motives is purely profits unlike Christian bookstores which sell Christian books.

<<<You say: Surely, if a single Harry Potter can cause so much reaction from you, the collective enormity of what I've mentioned should worry you more! >>>

It is unlike any other books; it is a book on witchcraft practice as pointed out by a former witch in Joe's posting. It is not to be taken too lightly. My Senior Pastor always says: "Worry is like moving a rocking chair; it does not get you anywhere." We do well to watch and pray!

<<<You say: And no need to resort to red herrings, pornography and what not. But I can entertain you. So Harry Potter is "hardcore" huh? Whatever is "hardcore" supposed to mean. So, what makes a book "hardcore". It'd be very interesting to know. And what makes Harry Potter "hardcore"? Oh I forgot you've not read any of the books, so I guess you're not in the position to make fair comments. >>>

Anything hardcore is addictive and destructive. It is better to avoid it like a plague. You can look up the comments by a former witch on HP posted by Joe. Please pray about it and don't play around with witchcraft. Don't say I didn't warn you.

<<<You say: And stop trying to evade my question. Give me the relevant paragraph where "Eveline... place[d] the Bible in the same class as HP." >>>

Maybe you can made yourself clearer here re your previous posting to JD.

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1. None Untitled by bluemarcus, 2001, Dec 10
1. Angry Mary Jane by Santa Monica, 2001, Dec 10
2. Question Hi bluem, can you tell us how good are those HP books since you've read them?Better in dealing with witchcraft? eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 11
1. None Have you stopped beating your wife? by Eveline How, 2001, Dec 11
(_ Note I have "spiritually beat up" the strongholds "for we do not wrestle vs flesh and blood." eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 11
2. None Untitled by Eveline How, 2001, Dec 11
1. Feedback Wow! by Ivan, 2001, Dec 11
1. More It is getting to be "hardcore" meaning "unyielding". eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 11
(_ Feedback On "hardcore" stuff. by Interested , 2001, Dec 12
(_ Sad Has the knowledge-based economy turns one to be a liberal and modern thinker; worst of all, produce a compromiser. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 12
(_ Feedback My subject is about parents and children relationship and not the new economy. n/t. by Interested , 2001, Dec 12
(_ Feedback Your mentioning of knowledge-based economy captivates me and hence my question. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 13
(_ Feedback Hadly know anything about economics, arts subjects are very difficult and I can't read. Science is much easier. n/t. by Interested , 2001, Dec 13
(_ Feedback It has to do with intellectual property which will be central to the new economy. n/t. by Interested , 2001, Dec 13
(_ Note We are God's property even in the new economy. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 13
(_ Feedback So do you expect food to drop from the sky or what? Scriptrues say no work no eating either. n/t. by Interested , 2001, Dec 13
(_ None How about trying out some God's manna. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 13
(_ Feedback Do you have some? n/t by Interested , 2001, Dec 14
(_ None It's God's manna - get from God. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 15
2. Idea To Ivan/Eveline by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 12
1. Ok Hi JD, Thanks for your insights and advice. eom by Ivan, 2001, Dec 12
2. Idea Adults and Children are different by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 12
1. Note A new category: RA(BAD) by Ivan, 2001, Dec 12
1. Ok Which category of reader are you? by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 13
(_ Feedback Almost persuaded by Ivan, 2001, Dec 13
1. Ok Read, not meditate. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 13
1. Question How does HP Glorify God ? by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 14
1. None Untitled by bluemarcus, 2001, Dec 14
1. Idea And then we ask "Why are Christians not too different than the world today ?" by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 14
1. None Untitled by bluemarcus, 2001, Dec 14
1. None Free indeed.... by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 14
2. Feedback Right ho! What are you gonna do when... by prophet, 2001, Dec 15
1. None Untitled by bluemarcus, 2001, Dec 15
(_ None Hmmmmm by prophet, 2001, Dec 15
2. Ok Oh so sad hor by Eveline How, 2001, Dec 14
1. Sad Why, I thought you had no time for this and already had your last word ? Why come back ? Please show some integrity.! by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 14
1. Ok Scared of me ah? by Eveline How, 2001, Dec 14
2. Feedback The writer of Ecclesiastes ... by Interested , 2001, Dec 15
2. Ok Wrong question. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 14
1. Idea It is simple.... by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 14
1. Question Ah! by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 14
1. None Untitled by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 14
(_ Ok Okay. (eom) by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 15
2. Warning Yes! We should not involve with anyone who promotes witchcraft in HP books and also not to read them.eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 14
3. Feedback Hey, JD why is eating cheese not glorifying to God. I eat it quite often? n/t. by Interested , 2001, Dec 15
1. Ok I hope you know that it was just a joke ? ;) by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 24
2. Sad Read and meditate by Ivan, 2001, Dec 13
1. Sad Sad indeed. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 14
1. Idea Do we have to ? by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 14
1. None Untitled by bluemarcus, 2001, Dec 14
2. Ok Yes, you don't ALWAYS have to, but sometimes you DO. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 14
2. Note Getting bad by Ivan, 2001, Dec 14
1. Ok Yes, it's a shame. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 15
(_ Sad Really sad by Ivan, 2001, Dec 15
(_ Ok Before your rest ... by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 20
(_ Idea It is really screwed up........ by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 24
1. Feedback Yes! This is going to happen hopefully. Daniel Eaton has to eat back his words like promoting witches are good and ... by Ivan, 2001, Dec 24
2. Ok To JD n Ivan by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 26
1. Idea Reply by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 26
1. None On Star Trek and Magic by RTC, 2001, Dec 26
2. Ok Okay by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 26
1. None getting more liberal... by Little Man of God, 2001, Dec 26
2. Pray "Spellbound" by Ivan, 2001, Dec 26
1. Sad Too bad. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 26
(_ Pray Don't just say too bad; it is time to pray! eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 26
2. Idea Thanks Christopher......Here is my response..... by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 13
1. Ok From Amazon. by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 13

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