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What a strange criteria! 

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Re: church in Jurong West vicinity
Re: City Harvest (Liz R.)
Re: where else?
Re: Why?
Re: several reasons
Date: 2001, Dec 19
From: RTC RTC

That a nonbeliever would want to feel comfortable in the meeting of God's people? Maybe it is today's church culture to make their services as seeker-friendly as possible, with the mega-watt smiles, the best in sight, visual and audio, which gives nonbelievers the same comsumer mentality that many of the believers have as well. My friend, church meetings are NOT and were NEVER meant for nonbelievers. Read for yourself in the NT! Church meetings are by definition the meeting of God's people, the church. So who does that exclude? Church meetings should never be designed for nonbelievers when you have understood the purpose of church meetings. Does that mean then that nonbelievers CANNOT come? That's not true. The NT talks about nonbelievers coming into a church meeting (you may need to do a little research into how first century homes were like to appreciate this point better). They either think the church is crazy and leave or they call upon the Lord for their salvation. What doesn't happen is that the church suddenly gets conscious and somehow try to make their meetings palatable to the taste of the nonbeliever so as not to offend him. Sad to say, that's what usually happens nowadays. To get people to join them, meetings become seeker-friendly at the expense of (real) church life. The services become nonbeliever centred rather than Christ-centred. What happened at Corinth was that Paul urged the church to exercise self-imposed order in their meetings, to use gifts that edify those present. When nonbelievers enter, they will encounter the church in action, God moving in their midst. They will see church life as God intended. What they won't see is church showmanship.

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Messages Inline: Outline:

1. we are all made unique by ephris, 2001, Dec 19

1. Different strokes for different folks by Jules, 2001, Dec 19

1. The most important Person you have left out is JESUS, the Head of the Church. eom. by Ivan, 2001, Dec 19

2. I wasn't talking about styles! by RTC, 2001, Dec 20

1. Re: I wasn't talking about styles! by ephris, 2001, Dec 20

(_ Two things by RTC, 2001, Dec 20

(_ Re: Two things by ephris, 2001, Dec 20

(_ How can? by RTC, 2001, Dec 20

(_ Re: How can? by ephris, 2001, Dec 20

1. I wonder by RTC, 2001, Dec 20

1. Re: I wonder by ephris, 2001, Dec 20

(_ You really don't understand by RTC, 2001, Dec 20

(_ Re: You really don't understand by ephris, 2001, Dec 20

1. *Smile*! by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 21

1. I believe there are 2 accounts and maybe more by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 21

(_ Untitled by RTC, 2001, Dec 22

1. Hi RTC by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 23

1. Mouth indicate heart by True Light, 2001, Dec 23

1. hi TL by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 24

2. Don't share your optimism by RTC, 2001, Dec 26

2. Are you sure? by RTC, 2001, Dec 24

1. Hi RTC by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 24

(_ Untitled by RTC, 2001, Dec 26

(_ well so far I have found this site more antagonistic than debative.... so rather leave without antagonising anyone. eom by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 26

2. On true worship by Ivan, 2001, Dec 24

1. If everything we do in school of life, was simply like a test we take in our everyday Singapore life by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 24

(_ What I mean is that the men of Athens fall short of true worship..... by Ivan, 2001, Dec 24

(_ at least now it makes more sense. eom by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 24

2. Better explain by RTC, 2001, Dec 21

3. Answer: St Francis of Assisi Church, near Boon Lay theatre..eom by Emmanuel, 2001, Dec 25

2. Whiich God? by prophet, 2001, Dec 20

1. Re: Whiich God? by ephris, 2001, Dec 20

1. Then answer this question by RTC, 2001, Dec 20

1. Agree with RTC by prophet, 2001, Dec 20

2. Jesus is the Way by Liz R., 2001, Dec 20

3. An unbeliever CANNOT worship the True Christian God! by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 24

1. Disagree.... by Emmanuel, 2001, Dec 25

1. You mean... by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 26

2. Consistent by RTC, 2001, Dec 26

1. But Galatians 1:4 says by Ivan, 2001, Dec 26

(_ Which comes first? by RTC, 2001, Dec 26

(_ Yes! True worshippers have to be rightly and truly related to God thru' the cross of Jesus (Gal 1:4) by Ivan, 2001, Dec 26

3. No, not comfortable by RTC, 2001, Dec 20

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