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Re: Question church in Jurong West vicinity
Re: Ok City Harvest (Liz R.)
Re: None where else?
Re: Question Why?
Re: None several reasons
Re: None What a strange criteria! (RTC)
Re: Feedback we are all made unique
Re: None I wasn't talking about styles! (RTC)
Re: Note Re: I wasn't talking about styles!
Re: None Two things (RTC)
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Re: None How can? (RTC)
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Re: None I wonder (RTC)
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Date: 2001, Dec 20
From: RTC RTC

RTC, I don't understand your question. Are you saying that a non-believer can or cannot honour God? Your replies contradict each other.

++By a nonbeliever honoring God I mean the superficial acknowledgement of a higher power at work e.g. someone amazed at an answered prayer or a miracle. Kind of like what Jesus said when others can see your good works and give God the glory (Matt 5:16). Such an acknowledgement is temporary and not life-changing, and does not proceed out of a regenerated life in Christ. And neither can a nonbeliever worship God, because he does not have the life of Christ in him, allowing him to enter into God's presence with confidence. The nonbeliever is still dead in his sins, and until he has come to a saving faith in Christ, any form of "honor" or "worship" given is not those that God seeks after.

But this is really sidetracking the original issue.

++I think it is a fundamental question that needs answering first.

Simple question asked:
Name a non-charismatic church in Jurong West.

++In turn I gave a biblical answer: the Bible knows nothing of a non-charismatic church. Like I said earlier, I do not take this to mean the current understanding of the term "charismatic" associated with charismatic churches.

Simple answer required:

++I will let someone else answer that question. Otherwise you can simply search the church directory handbook and choose one of your liking. Nevertheless, it is important that you first see what the NT teaches about the church and make your decision based on that.

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1. Feedback Re: You really don't understand by ephris, 2001, Dec 20
1. Ok *Smile*! by Christopher Yip, 2001, Dec 21
1. Feedback I believe there are 2 accounts and maybe more by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 21
(_ None Untitled by RTC, 2001, Dec 22
1. Feedback Hi RTC by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 23
1. Ok Mouth indicate heart by True Light, 2001, Dec 23
1. Ok hi TL by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 24
2. None Don't share your optimism by RTC, 2001, Dec 26
2. None Are you sure? by RTC, 2001, Dec 24
1. Feedback Hi RTC by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 24
(_ None Untitled by RTC, 2001, Dec 26
(_ Pray well so far I have found this site more antagonistic than debative.... so rather leave without antagonising anyone. eom by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 26
2. Feedback On true worship by Ivan, 2001, Dec 24
1. Note If everything we do in school of life, was simply like a test we take in our everyday Singapore life by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 24
(_ Feedback What I mean is that the men of Athens fall short of true worship..... by Ivan, 2001, Dec 24
(_ Feedback at least now it makes more sense. eom by Royston Ong, 2001, Dec 24
2. None Better explain by RTC, 2001, Dec 21
3. Feedback Answer: St Francis of Assisi Church, near Boon Lay theatre..eom by Emmanuel, 2001, Dec 25

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