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Re: Question church in Jurong West vicinity
Re: Ok City Harvest (Liz R.)
Re: Feedback Sorry, City Harvest is not Traditional Church, Lolz...eom (Emmanuel)
Re: Note The true City (Ivan)
Re: None Impressive (RTC)
Re: Feedback What great feats of men to turn the wasteland into a holy masterpiece sanctuary of God! (Ivan)
Re: None Reasons??? (RTC)
Re: Feedback I believe every building of a new church is a testimony of the members' faith in a great God (Ivan)
Re: None I can see that, but can you see this? (RTC)
Re: Feedback In times like these (Ivan)
Re: None Living in the Old? (RTC)
Re: Feedback The Old and the New (Ivan)
Re: None reply (RTC)
Date: 2001, Dec 29
From: Ivan Ivan

I am not going to follow the letter of rebuttals in the usual format going through them line by line. What I seek to do now is to highlight the key areas we agree and work on the key areas of disagreement to come to a desired end.

As you did not rebut my point on the existence of church buildings from 4th century AD, I presume that you agree that there are church buidings whether constructed from scratch or converted from existing premises by changing the nature of its use like in our times the change of use from cinemas to church buildings.

You have also agreed not to follow the letter in OT and NT but follow the spiritual principles or Scriptural commands or godly examples of men of God like Apostle Paul as he trained up and set up local Pastors while he planted churches in his missionary journeys. This is what is precisely happening at the new CHC with its School of Theology with all these things in mind.

And you said that the church is not precluded from using buildings for occasional large meetings. I can see that the situation happened then in Acts times is what is happening here in our times. I can envisage that with time the early Christians realised that it is better to fix the building for the large assembly of Christians (Heb 10:24,25) which they can construct from scratch or converting the use of such buildings for Christian worship from 4th century AD. Or they have to continually face with the recurring costs of rentals of premises or have to inconveniently depend on the goodwill of the members to use their large premises and even have to subject the members to change of locations at last minute notices.

My friend, this is the state of the churches nowadays; some are meeting at hotels, some at Christian organisations premises, some at factory premises and some at cinemas. And with modernisation, buildings including church buildings have improved which we cannot deny. When we become Christians, we have not lost our brains, we need all the more, God's wisdom to help us to think and to apply the spiritual principles set out in the NT and to practice the dynamics of church life in a corporate context as well as small group dynamics to bring the church to a higher and deeper levels in God. And the church building should serve the needs of the people, say 13,000.

Yes, the Church of Jesus Christ moves from glory to glory and shines brighter and brighter while the world gets darker and darker at the end times.

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1. None What about my questions? by RTC, 2001, Dec 29
(_ Feedback I try... by Ivan, 2001, Dec 29
(_ None Place of worship???? by RTC, 2001, Dec 30
(_ Feedback I think... by Ivan, 2001, Dec 30
1. More It is heartening.... by Ivan, 2001, Dec 31
1. None Best of both worlds?? by RTC, 2001, Dec 31
(_ Note RTC: Return To Christ by Ivan, 2002, Jan 01
(_ None Already have by RTC, 2002, Jan 02
(_ Feedback On "house of God" by Ivan, 2002, Jan 03
(_ None No house of God by RTC, 2002, Jan 03
2. None Of course happier up there by RTC, 2001, Dec 31
1. Question RTC by John Doe 666, 2001, Dec 31
(_ None Church in my home by RTC, 2002, Jan 02
(_ Question May I.... by John Doe 666, 2002, Jan 02
(_ None Here's some info by RTC, 2002, Jan 02

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