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Seem like two extreme view presented:
Lumber 1: Random Stat, like flip a coin, no evident for or against, no use to try and prove one way or another. Lumber 2: Sure proved upside down, watertight, like mathematical formula, like 2 + 2 in base 10 equaled 4, sure one. But then, Biblicly, got room for other position or not? For example, God already leave so many evident (like Edmund referred to Roman 1), but he never reduced to formula, force people got no choice but admit is true. He also required faith in thing not seen and thing hope for. Also, how come the Apostle never use Pascal Wager type of argument in evangelism? This kind of Wager very interesting. But then, hopefully not an example of humanistic thinkings that will misled people in the end. Believe in Jesus can considered a bet or not? Not sure leh.
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Personally by Eveline How, 11/16/00
OK Lor by 'Santa' Monica, 11/16/00
To Eveline, On God's Laws by Interested , 11/16/00